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« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2021, 10:25:27 PM »
I don't see Landris doing that. ::)

 

I see both of Ready's feet.

Those are Fred Flintstone's feet

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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2021, 12:05:57 AM »
I don't see Landris doing that. ::)

 

I see both of Ready's feet.
We can see Ready & his 2 feet on the tarmac.
And in the top pix we can see Landis' face & his foot/feet.
Or, if that's McIntyre's face then its Landis' foot/feet anyhow.


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« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2021, 08:53:32 AM »
Bond/Muchmore Composite.


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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2021, 10:59:40 AM »
Altgens 6 Colorized

I colorized this image a couple of years ago.


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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2021, 01:09:57 AM »
I think we may be seeing the reflection of bystanders on the chrome running-board of the Queen Mary.

In the area between the wheels, we can't see any of the sunlit street beyond the JFK limousine and it had comparable clearance to the Queen Mary. Maybe the QM was slightly higher, but Ready's "legs" are in the chrome running-board. The Ready "leg" to camera-left doesn't move relative to the QM, and so is a part of the car.

The QM's running-board was catching quite a bit of sun as it went down Elm.
In the frames one can see Ready's feet changing pozzy, & Landis' foot/feet look like Ready's albeit visible in only say 2 frames koz Landis is out of frame in the other frames. Landis i think just touched down briefly, whilst Ready was bending down & going for it.
[edit][see Reply#60][Ready & Landis not on tarmac.]
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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2021, 02:06:27 AM »
Statement of Special Agent Paul E. Landis, Jr., United States Secret Service, concerning his activities and official duties on November 22, 1963.

 I also thought of trying to run and jump on the President's car but did not think I could make it because of the speed at which we were traveling. I decided I had better stay where I was so that I would at least be near the First Lady, to whom I am assigned. I think that it was at this point that I thought, "Faster, Faster, Faster," thinking that we could not get out of the area soon enough. However, I don't have any idea as to how fast we were then moving.

I had drawn my gun, but I am not sure exactly when I did this. I did leave my suit coat unbuttoned all during the motorcade movement, thinking at the time that I could get to my gun faster this way, if I had to.

I glanced towards the President and he still appeared to be fairly upright in his seat, leaning slightly toward Mrs. Kennedy with his head tilted slightly back. I think Mrs. Kennedy had her right arm around the President's shoulders at this time. I also remember Special Agent Clinton Hill attempting to climb onto the back of the President's car.

It was at this moment that I heard a second report and it appeared that the President's head split open with a muffled exploding sound. I can best describe the sound as I heard it, as the sound you would get by shooting a high powered bullet into a five gallon can of water or shooting into a melon. I saw pieces of flesh and blood flying through the air and the President slumped out of sight towards Mrs. Kennedy.


Statement of Special Agent John D. Ready, Special Agent, United States Secret Service

At this time the US Secret Service follow-up car seemed to slow and I heard someone from inside this car say: "he's shot." I left the follow-up car in the direction of the President's car but was recalled by ATSAIC Emory Roberts (Secret Service) as the cars increased their speeds. I got back on the car and seated myself beside Mr. Roberts in the right front seat. The cars proceeded to the hospital several miles distance.


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« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2021, 03:00:52 AM »
Statement of Special Agent Paul E. Landis, Jr., United States Secret Service, concerning his activities and official duties on November 22, 1963.

 I also thought of trying to run and jump on the President's car but did not think I could make it because of the speed at which we were traveling. I decided I had better stay where I was so that I would at least be near the First Lady, to whom I am assigned. I think that it was at this point that I thought, "Faster, Faster, Faster," thinking that we could not get out of the area soon enough. However, I don't have any idea as to how fast we were then moving.

I had drawn my gun, but I am not sure exactly when I did this. I did leave my suit coat unbuttoned all during the motorcade movement, thinking at the time that I could get to my gun faster this way, if I had to.

I glanced towards the President and he still appeared to be fairly upright in his seat, leaning slightly toward Mrs. Kennedy with his head tilted slightly back. I think Mrs. Kennedy had her right arm around the President's shoulders at this time. I also remember Special Agent Clinton Hill attempting to climb onto the back of the President's car.

It was at this moment that I heard a second report and it appeared that the President's head split open with a muffled exploding sound. I can best describe the sound as I heard it, as the sound you would get by shooting a high powered bullet into a five gallon can of water or shooting into a melon. I saw pieces of flesh and blood flying through the air and the President slumped out of sight towards Mrs. Kennedy.

Statement of Special Agent John D. Ready, Special Agent, United States Secret Service
At this time the US Secret Service follow-up car seemed to slow and I heard someone from inside this car say: "he's shot." I left the follow-up car in the direction of the President's car but was recalled by ATSAIC Emory Roberts (Secret Service) as the cars increased their speeds. I got back on the car and seated myself beside Mr. Roberts in the right front seat. The cars proceeded to the hospital several miles distance.
Nix definitely shows Landis' foot/feet on the tarmac. But his head is high.
I think he might have just put one foot down briefly, & praps his other foot didn't even leave the running board.
[edit][see Reply#60][Ready & Landis not on tarmac.]
He would have been starting to follow Ready, but he heard Roberts.
In Bronson footage our view of Landis is blocked by McIntyre, or the frame is too blurry, & in Nix we see the head or face (plus foot/feet) of Landis in only 2 frames, hence we dont get to see his reactions to Hickey shooting etc.
Landis heard only 2 shots. Strange. Hill only heard 2 shots but at least he had an excuse.

But why did Kinney look hard right after the head-shot while Hill was in trouble mounting the JFK limo?  This is in Muchmore, not in Nix (in Nix a lady blocks our view of Kinney at that instant)(by my memory).  CTers will say that Kinney was looking towards the picket fence. LNers will have no answer. It wouldn't be simply to have a good look at Ready getting back on board, surely.
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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
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