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Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2021, 07:17:48 AM »
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Later, we see Landis down at road level just like Ready, hence Landis has both feet on the road.
[edit][see Reply#60][Ready & Landis not on tarmac.]
We can see McIntyre's head & left leg, he is high up on the running board on the near side.


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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
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Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2021, 08:14:58 AM »
I think we may be seeing the reflection of bystanders on the chrome running-board of the Queen Mary.



In the area between the wheels, we can't see any of the sunlit street beyond the JFK limousine and it had comparable clearance to the Queen Mary. Maybe the QM was slightly higher, but Ready's "legs" are in the chrome running-board. The Ready "leg" to camera-left doesn't move relative to the QM, and so is a part of the car.

The QM's running-board was catching quite a bit of sun as it went down Elm.


Yes u are correct there is some kind of reflexion going on, & yes the main "shoe" moves with QM hence it aint a shoe.
However a slo-mo of the footage does show a fraction of an inch of Ready's dark shoes "running" under the reflexion.
And as shown in my previous Reply Landis is low down at Ready's level & leaning forward & definitely running for a bit.
We dont see when they get back on the running board, koz Nix has panned ahead.
[edit][see Reply#60][Ready & Landis not on tarmac.]

Why has Kinney turned hard right?
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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2021, 11:28:56 PM »
I think Ready was standing on the running board and was ducking after he heard the head shot. Very sensible, was Ready.
U can definitely see a fraction of an inch of Ready's dark shoes on the tarmac, doing what shoes do, ie taking steps.
In your overlay of QM u can see an inch of curb under the running board, on the far side of QM, even tho that pix was made from close.
Most of the youtube copies of Nix are lousy, but u can see the dark bit of shoe in good copies like the one in the frame that i showed.
But i admit that it aint very convincing/certain, even the good copies are blurry.

The running board stops near start of door, in my frame Ready is ahead of that point. But it is possible that he is hanging from the handle.
However, look at McIntyre, not worried about the sudden braking of QM at all, standing much higher than Ready & Landis.

However if Roberts is correct then Ready has not yet jumped down, koz Hill aint yet on the limo, ie if Ready jumps down after Nix has panned away from QM.
But i reckon that Roberts aint correct, & i reckon that Nix shows.
[edit][i now agree with Jerry Organ][see Reply#60.]
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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2021, 04:39:44 AM »
Thanks, that’s right  about what I was  thinking. There is a gentleman or two bending over on the sidewalk about where the epilepsy thing reportedly happened. It appears to me that perhaps that is someone picking up their jacket after the ambulance left? I see white shirt sleeves. And covering someone in distress like that is a common thing to do.
I’ve always had trouble with visualizing the ambulance scene in Bronson, so decided to stabilize the Sixth Floor Museum’s online Bronson film. It was a surprise for me to see Toni Glover with her blue jacket appearing briefly in later frames of the ambulance huddle. Are they lifting the man to his feet? The ambulance lights are flashing at the right of this video crop. A stranger (possibly, but probably not her mother) in black is sitting on the pedestal where Toni will join her shortly. I can’t remember if Dr. Glover ever included this seizure/ambulance scene in her recollections.



edit: Here is a link to 2012 newsgroup discussions with Toni.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.assassination.jfk/c/hzzhl3fqGS0

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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2021, 06:01:10 AM »
I made a giff of 37 Nixian frames.  It appears that Ready & Landis do indeed simply fall/lean forward due to Queen Mary braking.  McIntyre also leans a little.
The "dark shoes" seen under Queen Mary are probably due to Ready's & Landis' own shadows on the tarmac.
Plus there are some shapes or something that are probly simply due to reflexions from the shiny running board on the near side.
Ready can be seen steadying himself by placing his right hand on the bonnet.
Near the end Ready has mostly stood back up again.
Thanx to Jerry Organ for pointing out my error.

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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2021, 06:52:29 AM »
I’ve always had trouble with visualizing the ambulance scene in Bronson, so decided to stabilize the Sixth Floor Museum’s online Bronson film. It was a surprise for me to see Toni Glover with her blue jacket appearing briefly in later frames of the ambulance huddle. Are they lifting the man to his feet? The ambulance lights are flashing at the right of this video crop. Her mother in black is sitting on the pedestal where Toni will join her shortly. I can’t remember if Dr. Glover ever included this seizure/ambulance scene in her recollections.



Nice catch James, showing the ambulance flashing red light, Toni Glover and her mother, i also see a cop in a white hat facing the camera as he bends down to pick up the Epileptic man.
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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2021, 08:06:36 AM »
Bronson crop

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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2021, 09:26:22 AM »
 “Texas Monthly” interview with Rosemary Willis Roach, her sister Linda Willis Pool, and mother Marilyn Willis

In the interview they mention the incident with the Epileptic man

https://robinungers.blogspot.com/2021/05/texas-monthly-willis-family-interview.html

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Re: AP "Associated Press" Altgens 6
« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2021, 09:26:22 AM »