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Offline John Mytton

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2021, 03:17:27 PM »
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assassinating Kennedy while sitting down in a moving car is high risk with a chance of failure,

But you said; "A professional assassin would only need 1 shot"

And you went on to say that the fact that more shots were fired was "virtually conclusive evidence" that Oswald was the lone assassindid the assassination all by himself"

Now it's suddenly high risk with a chance of failure? You're not making any sense.


And how is shooting at Kennedy in a moving car (which is high risk with a chance of failure) somehow a "golden opportunity" for a non professional such as Oswald? 

You're not making any sense.

Get a grip, I was giving you a sarcastic CT reply to your post and it went right over your head. LOL!

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2021, 03:26:25 PM »
In the 1967 CBS-News re-enactment, Howard Donahue said he was given a Carcano rifle he was unfamiliar with and allowed only three practice shots in a basement firing range before going out to the re-enactment scene.

    "CBS News directors apparently believed that if any of
     the riflemen had a chance to practice, the results of the
     demonstration would be worthless."
          -- Mortal Error, 1992, p. 8

They had to shoot at a moving target that represented the limousine, with stakes defining the area in which they could fire. Donahue described the shooting platform as top heavy and exposed to weather.

    "A light rain began to fall and the tower swayed slightly
     in the wind."
        -- Mortal Error, 1992, p. 9

They had to recreate a three-shot scenario, not randomly decide on their own when to aim for the head for a one-shot kill. The marksmen were allowed three attempts each; Donahue seems to be increasingly familiar with the bolt action on each attempt, describing his third:

    "Donahue's shots had all hit within a three-inch circle on
     the target's head."
        -- Mortal Error, 1992, p. 9

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2021, 03:34:46 PM »
Get a grip, I was giving you a sarcastic CT reply to your post and it went right over your head. LOL!

JohnM

Yeah right  :D     You screwed up.

It really is as simple as that and this pathetic excuse doesn't alter that one bit.

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2021, 05:53:47 PM »
From the testimony/accounts of the Connallys (WC testimony):

John Connally: "I heard it [the shot] hit. It was a very loud noise, just that audible, very clear.
Immediately I could see on my clothes, my clothing, I could see on the interior of the car which, as I recall, was a pale blue, brain tissue, which I immediately recognized, and I recall very well, on my trousers there was one chunk of brain tissue as big as almost my thumb, thumbnail, and again I did not see the President at any time either after the first, second, or third shots, but I assumed always that it was he who was hit and no one else.
I immediately, when I was hit, I said, "Oh, no, no, no." And then I said, "My God, they are going to kill us all." Nellie, when she pulled me over into her lap----

Nellie Connally: "The third shot that I heard I felt, it felt like spent buckshot falling all over us, and then, of course, I too could see that it was the matter, brain tissue, or whatever, just human matter, all over the car and both of us."

If the bullet exited the rear of the head - and blew a hole out of it - then how did all of this material - brain tissue, blood - land immediately in front of where JFK was? It landed on the Connallys - who said they felt it and saw it - and all inside the interior of the car in front of where JFK was sitting.

How is it possible for a bullet to blow out the back of JFK's head and have material exit from there (from where else could it exit?) and land in front of him, in front of this back of the head blow out? The wind blew it? But they were headed into a wind, you can see the flags flying on the limo.

The Parkland doctors - those who said it appeared to be in the occipital region - were simply wrong about the location.

And for what it's worth, Robert McClelland was interviewed shortly after the assassination by a medical journal called The Texas State Journal of Medicine. He told them this about the location of the wound.



The wound was on the "right side of the head." Nothing about the back of it.

Full account of his and the other doctors is here: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth599863/m1/106/?q=Perry

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #68 on: June 09, 2021, 07:34:05 PM »

Btw, does this mean that all those expert rifle men who tried (and failed) to copy what Oswald is supposed to have done were amateurs?

What exactly was Oswald supposed to have done, and who were the expert riflemen who tried to duplicate it and failed?


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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2021, 01:03:06 AM »
Is this in your book? Because 95% of it you posted in 2008.

No. Nothing about the rifle or Oswald's ability to shoot is in my book.

2 KGB officers inside the CIA and a CIA “double agent” (an American CIA officer who knowingly and willingly worked for the KGB) assassinated JFK on November 22, 1963. I know because I exposed the KGB infiltration in 1984.

After the KGB was exposed, the entire 98th Congress held secret closed-door hearings. Every Member of Congress was at the hearings, and they can all attest to the KGB infiltration of the CIA being exposed in 1984.

An abundance of testimony at the closed-door Congressional hearings in 1984 proved that the KGB-dominated CIA killed President Kennedy in 1963.

All of that is in my book. Click the link. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V9JT65Y

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2021, 05:10:44 PM »
No. Nothing about the rifle or Oswald's ability to shoot is in my book.

2 KGB officers inside the CIA and a CIA “double agent” (an American CIA officer who knowingly and willingly worked for the KGB) assassinated JFK on November 22, 1963. I know because I exposed the KGB infiltration in 1984.

After the KGB was exposed, the entire 98th Congress held secret closed-door hearings. Every Member of Congress was at the hearings, and they can all attest to the KGB infiltration of the CIA being exposed in 1984.

An abundance of testimony at the closed-door Congressional hearings in 1984 proved that the KGB-dominated CIA killed President Kennedy in 1963.

All of that is in my book. Click the link. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V9JT65Y
You seriously believe that all of these revelations could have been kept secret? Nobody, no member of Congress, no staffer, no one who attended these meetings would have revealed all of this?

The Soviet Union fell apart in 1991. It no longer exists after that date. Revealing that Moscow was behind the assassination wouldn't have led to a crisis; the Soviet Union didn't exist, it wasn't a threat. The Marxist-Leninist government behind the act had been removed, overthrown, replaced. There would have been no war, no retaliation, no crisis as a result because the people who carried out the act were gone. And if the US government had evidence about the three KGB officers they would have been charged with the crime (I believe all are now dead).

This is frankly not believable on any level. The US government is a sieve when it comes to secrets.

We've had numerous historians and reporters do works on the figures. Robert Caro on LBJ for example. He has found no evidence - as far as I know (his last book hasn't come out) - to your allegations. Some of LBJ's people, top advisers, lived after the collapse of the USSR  Several of them are still alive - Bill Moyers, Joe Califano. None of them ever gave the slightest hint to your claims. Nothing at all.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2021, 07:42:41 PM »
You seriously believe that all of these revelations could have been kept secret? Nobody, no member of Congress, no staffer, no one who attended these meetings would have revealed all of this?

The Soviet Union fell apart in 1991. It no longer exists after that date. Revealing that Moscow was behind the assassination wouldn't have led to a crisis; the Soviet Union didn't exist, it wasn't a threat. The Marxist-Leninist government behind the act had been removed, overthrown, replaced. There would have been no war, no retaliation, no crisis as a result because the people who carried out the act were gone. And if the US government had evidence about the three KGB officers they would have been charged with the crime (I believe all are now dead).

This is frankly not believable on any level. The US government is a sieve when it comes to secrets.

We've had numerous historians and reporters do works on the figures. Robert Caro on LBJ for example. He has found no evidence - as far as I know (his last book hasn't come out) - to your allegations. Some of LBJ's people, top advisers, lived after the collapse of the USSR  Several of them are still alive - Bill Moyers, Joe Califano. None of them ever gave the slightest hint to your claims. Nothing at all.

If his book novel is true, how come he hasn't been 'disappeared' yet. Too soon, I guess.

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Re: JFK Was Shot From The Front
« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2021, 07:42:41 PM »