Should the TSBD be demolished?

[Jerry Organ]

Kennedy was canonized all over the world. Many wanted to remember Kennedy in a positive light. His more-inspiring ideas ("New Frontier", Moon Landing, Peace Corps, and Civil Rights) seem to mark a change from the past. His "brand" was that of a young prince struck down by the forces of evil; the lot of the Irish to suffer tragedy.

These stamps show the funeral and the Kennedys at Love Field.

In the wake of the assassination, there would soon be enough Kennedy commemorative stamps to justify a thematic collection. Many of these stamps were called "Dunes" because they originated in what is today called the United Arab Emirates. In 1963, Britain relinquished control of the postal system there. Finbar Kenny, an American businessman, sold the UAE on the idea of printing commemorative stamps aimed at the global collector market. These stamps, sometimes oversized with metallic printing, commemorated people and events that had little to do with the issuing Arab sheikhdoms and weren't officially used as postage.

[Rick Plant]

Kennedy was canonized all over the world. Many wanted to remember Kennedy in a positive light. His more-inspiring ideas ("New Frontier", Moon Landing, Peace Corps, and Civil Rights) seem to mark a change from the past. His "brand" was that of a young prince struck down by the forces of evil; the lot of the Irish to suffer tragedy.

These stamps show the funeral and the Kennedys at Love Field.

In the wake of the assassination, there would soon be enough Kennedy commemorative stamps to justify a thematic collection. Many of these stamps were called "Dunes" because they originated in what is today called the United Arab Emirates. In 1963, Britain relinquished control of the postal system there. Finbar Kenny, an American businessman, sold the UAE on the idea of printing commemorative stamps aimed at the global collector market. These stamps, sometimes oversized with metallic printing, commemorated people and events that had little to do with the issuing Arab sheikhdoms and weren't officially used as postage.

Thanks for posting these stamps Jerry.

[Rick Plant]

It has nothing to do with Donald Trump or "strongman" or any other silly argument. It has to do with the facts.

Criminal Donald launched the biggest assault against Civil Rights in American History. He called for and encouraged police brutality against Americans (specifically African Americans), dismantled voting rights, attacked peaceful protestors for his bible photo op, and shut down professional black athletes to peacefully bring awareness to police brutality by taking a knee before the game. His entire bogus "presidency" was based on racsim because he wanted to appeal to white supremacists that are his core base. 

It was his hateful and racist rhetoric that allowed African Americans to be shot and beaten by racist cops because he encouraged them to do it. And when African Americans finally had enough of this police brutality, they decided to march and protest in the streets along with other races joining in the Black Lives Matter movement, Criminal Donald had his unidentified military gestapo thugs violently beat up protestors. And you had the right wing media pushing lies and propaganda against this civil rights movement because they are against civil rights.

Trump to police: 'Please don't be too nice' to suspects: He made the comments during a speech to law enforcement officers today
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-police-nice-suspects/story?id=48914504

Trump urged military to 'crack skulls' while suppressing George Floyd protests at White House
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-protesters/

[Jerry Freeman]

Maybe this should have been a poll. Enough Dallas monuments have been torn down or demolished.

[Jerry Organ]

Maybe this should have been a poll. Enough Dallas monuments have been torn down or demolished.

The only ones I could find that were recently removed were Confederate ones.


The "Robert E. Lee on Traveller" sculpture in Lee Park (the dual equestrian statue above-right) is a bronze by Alexander Phimister Proctor, and so is a fine art piece, as opposed to the generic statuary of the Confederate War Memorial (above-left). The Lee sculpture was removed in 2017 and auctioned off for $1,435,000 to a law firm (unclear if they were representing someone) -- it was relocated to a golf course in Terlingua, Texas.

The Lee sculpture was originally slated for Dealey Plaza; Kennedy drove pass it on Turtle Creek the day he was killed. Kennedy's casket passed Proctor statuary on the Memorial Bridge that that spans the Potomac to Arlington Cemetery. The president is buried in the former estate of General Lee's wife. A Court ruling briefly returned the estate to a grandson of General Lee in 1883, who sold it to the government.

[Jerry Freeman]

One statue removed from Dallas Love Field ....A Texas Ranger.
Used to be "One riot--One Ranger" Oh well.
Was there in 1961.... so Kennedy might have seen it but probably not.
Someone wrote this book and said some of the Rangers were racist

https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/visual-arts/2020/06/03/the-statue-of-the-texas-ranger-at-love-field-may-be-coming-down/
 

[Gerry Down]

The only ones I could find that were recently removed were Confederate ones.

How come the same people who are tearing down these statues are the same ones constructing statues of an individual who robbed a pregnant woman at gun point?

[Jerry Organ]

One statue removed from Dallas Love Field ....A Texas Ranger.
Used to be "One riot--One Ranger" Oh well.
Was there in 1961.... so Kennedy might have seen it but probably not.
Someone wrote this book and said some of the Rangers were racist

https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/visual-arts/2020/06/03/the-statue-of-the-texas-ranger-at-love-field-may-be-coming-down/

"Some" of the old-time Rangers were racist? 

The statue's model was "Jay" Banks. Here's a picture of him enforcing segregation at Mansfield, Texas in 1955. Banks called the white mob who placed a "black" effigy on a noose just "‘salt of the earth’ citizens". The school resisted integration until 1965. The town prospered by supplying meal and flour to the Confederacy and later the US Cavalry's attempt at what some term ethnic-cleansing (see ie: "Oh What A Slaughter! : Massacres in the American West: 1846—1890" by Larry McMurtry).



The "One Riot--One Ranger" incident is probably folklore and Texas swagger.