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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2021, 08:32:05 PM »
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LNer's have always been reticent to look into who Oswald actually was and what motivated him, and the few LNer's who do take the effort to examine Oswald's life, want to write off all of his actions as being some simple minded nut who just happened to fall through the iron curtain.... and then re-emerge from behind the iron curtain all by himself without any assistance from anybody.    ( A person has to be very gullible and naive to believe that) 


"For instance, Oswald defected from America because he was a Government agent and later for some reason the Government thought it would be a good idea to have a man with a direct connection with their organization to be their designated "Patsy" the illogical inconsistency is staggering.".....  J. Mytton

Isn't it amazing that LHO ( a "turncoat traitor" ) was issued a draft card while in Minsk, after he "defected" that rated him A_1 for reenlistment in the Marine Corps...And Lee continued to proudly wear his Marine Corp ring right up to the day he was murdered while in the custody of the Dallas Police.......

Poll: 68% Of Americans Believe Lee Harvey Oswald Acted Like A**hole
https://www.theonion.com/poll-68-of-americans-believe-lee-harvey-oswald-acted-1819885391

WASHINGTON—More than 50 years after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, a Gallup poll published Thursday revealed that 68 percent of Americans now believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted like a total a*shole. “Remarkably, our polling data reveal that more than two-thirds of U.S. citizens are now convinced that Oswald acted like a complete prick in planning and carrying out the brutal shooting of JFK,” said Gallup CEO Jim Clifton, adding that of those surveyed, nearly half of respondents were sure or very sure that Oswald acted like a “huge f***ing jerk” in Dallas, attributing the shift in public perception to mounting evidence showing that camping out at the Texas Book Depository with the express intention of murdering the 35th U.S. president was “a total d*ck move.”

“Additionally, 11 percent said they initially gave Oswald the benefit of the doubt, but now believe with absolute certainty that this guy was just a jackass, pure and simple."

Interestingly, 7 percent now say there might have even been a second a**hole involved in the shooting.” The survey also revealed that 18 percent of Americans were confident Oswald had acted “pretty damn cool.”

-The Onion
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2021, 09:01:59 PM »
Poll: 68% Of Americans Believe Lee Harvey Oswald Acted Like A**hole
https://www.theonion.com/poll-68-of-americans-believe-lee-harvey-oswald-acted-1819885391

WASHINGTON—More than 50 years after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, a Gallup poll published Thursday revealed that 68 percent of Americans now believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted like a total a*shole. “Remarkably, our polling data reveal that more than two-thirds of U.S. citizens are now convinced that Oswald acted like a complete prick in planning and carrying out the brutal shooting of JFK,” said Gallup CEO Jim Clifton, adding that of those surveyed, nearly half of respondents were sure or very sure that Oswald acted like a “huge f***ing jerk” in Dallas, attributing the shift in public perception to mounting evidence showing that camping out at the Texas Book Depository with the express intention of murdering the 35th U.S. president was “a total d*ck move.”

“Additionally, 11 percent said they initially gave Oswald the benefit of the doubt, but now believe with absolute certainty that this guy was just a jackass, pure and simple."

Interestingly, 7 percent now say there might have even been a second a**hole involved in the shooting.” The survey also revealed that 18 percent of Americans were confident Oswald had acted “pretty damn cool.”

-The Onion

Verrrrry Interesting...... Now please explain how Mr Oswald managed to perform the impossible feat of striking a moving target while using a cranky old rifle with the sight mounted askew.......

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2021, 09:18:16 PM »
Poll: 68% Of Americans Believe Lee Harvey Oswald Acted Like A**hole
https://www.theonion.com/poll-68-of-americans-believe-lee-harvey-oswald-acted-1819885391

WASHINGTON—More than 50 years after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, a Gallup poll published Thursday revealed that 68 percent of Americans now believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted like a total a*shole. “Remarkably, our polling data reveal that more than two-thirds of U.S. citizens are now convinced that Oswald acted like a complete prick in planning and carrying out the brutal shooting of JFK,” said Gallup CEO Jim Clifton, adding that of those surveyed, nearly half of respondents were sure or very sure that Oswald acted like a “huge f***ing jerk” in Dallas, attributing the shift in public perception to mounting evidence showing that camping out at the Texas Book Depository with the express intention of murdering the 35th U.S. president was “a total d*ck move.”

“Additionally, 11 percent said they initially gave Oswald the benefit of the doubt, but now believe with absolute certainty that this guy was just a jackass, pure and simple."

Interestingly, 7 percent now say there might have even been a second a**hole involved in the shooting.” The survey also revealed that 18 percent of Americans were confident Oswald had acted “pretty damn cool.”

-The Onion

Poll: 68% Of Americans Believe Lee Harvey Oswald Acted Like A**hole

Was this poll based on information presented to the public by the US government??

Of course it was.....  In other words 68% of Americans believe the official fairy tale ....But conversely ....32% of Americans still refuse to accept the official fairy tale presented to them by the government......

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2021, 09:32:23 PM »
Poll: 68% Of Americans Believe Lee Harvey Oswald Acted Like A**hole
https://www.theonion.com/poll-68-of-americans-believe-lee-harvey-oswald-acted-1819885391

WASHINGTON—More than 50 years after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, a Gallup poll published Thursday revealed that 68 percent of Americans now believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted like a total a*shole. “Remarkably, our polling data reveal that more than two-thirds of U.S. citizens are now convinced that Oswald acted like a complete prick in planning and carrying out the brutal shooting of JFK,” said Gallup CEO Jim Clifton, adding that of those surveyed, nearly half of respondents were sure or very sure that Oswald acted like a “huge f***ing jerk” in Dallas, attributing the shift in public perception to mounting evidence showing that camping out at the Texas Book Depository with the express intention of murdering the 35th U.S. president was “a total d*ck move.”

“Additionally, 11 percent said they initially gave Oswald the benefit of the doubt, but now believe with absolute certainty that this guy was just a jackass, pure and simple."

Interestingly, 7 percent now say there might have even been a second a**hole involved in the shooting.” The survey also revealed that 18 percent of Americans were confident Oswald had acted “pretty damn cool.”

-The Onion

‘I Can’t Believe We Pulled It Off,’ Says Olympics Organizer Standing In Charred Crater Where Tokyo Once Was

TOKYO—Staring in wonderment as the Olympic Village, stadiums, and surrounding cityscape collapsed in upon themselves, the beaming president of the International Olympic Committee said “I can’t believe we pulled it off” while standing in the charred, smoking crater where Tokyo once was. “Despite unprecedented challenges and obstacles, we never once abandoned our mission to bring the world the 2020 Summer Games,” Thomas Bach told reporters as he walked amongst the smoldering rubble and applauded Olympic organizers, workers, and athletes who were screaming for help, many of them buried beneath several thousand tons of twisted steel and concrete that had crashed down around them. “Although we faced a yearlong delay, nothing could stop us from lighting the Olympic torch in Tokyo for the first time since 1964. To everyone who said we should have given up and gone home—look at us now!” Bach then climbed atop a large pile of bones to announce his intention to hold the Summer Olympics in Los Angeles in 2028 and Brisbane in 2032 even if those cities were completely engulfed in wildfires as a result of climate change.

https://www.theonion.com/i-can-t-believe-we-pulled-it-off-says-olympics-organ-1847429973

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2021, 10:44:37 PM »
‘I Can’t Believe We Pulled It Off,’ Says Olympics Organizer Standing In Charred Crater Where Tokyo Once Was

TOKYO—Staring in wonderment as the Olympic Village, stadiums, and surrounding cityscape collapsed in upon themselves, the beaming president of the International Olympic Committee said “I can’t believe we pulled it off” while standing in the charred, smoking crater where Tokyo once was. “Despite unprecedented challenges and obstacles, we never once abandoned our mission to bring the world the 2020 Summer Games,” Thomas Bach told reporters as he walked amongst the smoldering rubble and applauded Olympic organizers, workers, and athletes who were screaming for help, many of them buried beneath several thousand tons of twisted steel and concrete that had crashed down around them. “Although we faced a yearlong delay, nothing could stop us from lighting the Olympic torch in Tokyo for the first time since 1964. To everyone who said we should have given up and gone home—look at us now!” Bach then climbed atop a large pile of bones to announce his intention to hold the Summer Olympics in Los Angeles in 2028 and Brisbane in 2032 even if those cities were completely engulfed in wildfires as a result of climate change.

https://www.theonion.com/i-can-t-believe-we-pulled-it-off-says-olympics-organ-1847429973

Old Walt still thinks the Onion ...... poll actually happened. I posted the exact same poll a couple of years ago and he treated that seriously as well. Then when I informed him that The Onion is a spoof site he complained that people should be 'warned' when something is a spoof.

The hits just keep on coming'..
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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2021, 10:47:02 PM »
Now the iron sights are useless. ::)

Jerry,...Do I have to post the news paper clipping that touted the deadly accuracy of the rifle because it was equipped with a "TELECOPC SIGHT".......   That was for us gullible "pissants"

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2021, 01:38:50 AM »
The Commission thought it was possible to use the scope, even if it was off-zero at 100 yards as it was during the FBI tests. The distance from the Z313 head shot to the Sniper's Nest window as 218 feet (72.67 yards).

    "Frazier later fired four groups of three shots at a distance of 100 yards
     in 5.9, 6.2, 5.6, and 6.5 seconds. Each series of three shots landed
     within areas ranging in diameter from 3 to 5 inches. Although all of the
     shots were a few inches high and to the right of the target., this was
     because of a defect in the scope which was recognized by the FBI
     agents and which they could have compensated for if they were aiming
     to hit a bull's-eye. They were instead firing to determine how rapidly the
     weapon could be fired and the area within which three shots could be
     placed. Frazier testified that while he could not tell when the defect
     occurred, but that a person familiar with the weapon could compensate
     for it. Moreover, the defect was one which would have assisted the
     assassin aiming at a target which was moving away. Frazier said,
     "The fact that the crosshairs are set high would actually compensate
     for any lead which had to be taken. So that if you aimed with this
     weapon as it actually was received at the laboratory, it would not be
     necessary to take any lead whatsoever in order to hit the intended object.
     The scope would accomplish the lead for you." Frazier added that the
     scope would cause a slight miss to the right. It should be noted, however,
     that the President's car was curving slightly to the right when the third
     shot was fired.

     Based on these tests the experts agreed that the assassination rifle was
     an accurate weapon. Simmons described it as "quite accurate," in fact,
     as accurate as current military rifles. Frazier testified that the rifle was
     accurate, that it had less recoil than the average military rifle and that one
     would not have to be an expert marksman to have accomplished the
     assassination with the weapon which was used.

     Conclusion

     The various tests showed that the Mannlicher-Carcano was an accurate
     rifle and that the use of a four-power scope was a substantial aid to rapid,
     accurate firing."

          — Warren Report, pp.194-195




(Yet another example of the exemplary unbiased work contributed by the Warren Commission and the federal agencies.)

 I assume this is in the open air and nothing resembling the conditions in the snipers nest?
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« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2021, 02:22:05 AM »
I assume this is in the open air and nothing resembling the conditions in the snipers nest?

Wouldn't being in the "open air" and exposed to the elements be more of a hindrance than being tucked away safe and sound inside?

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