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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #80 on: August 14, 2021, 06:37:48 PM »
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I once had an "exchange" (using that word loosely) with a couple of conspiracy believers who said just that, it was a "Truman show." The reason "they" killed JFK this way - in broad daylight, with hundreds watching - was deliberate. It was a "show" to tell the public that they better watch it, that if they support someone like JFK who was going to challenge our overlords that really run the country that this is going to happen. A public execution so to speak.




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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #81 on: August 14, 2021, 07:01:04 PM »
Oswald just happened to have a Carcano rifle and it just happened to have a couple of notches that sorta' resembled the ones on the rifle recovered from the sniper's nest. But, no, they were different. "It doesn't look the same". The experts were wrong. Because "LOL."

Sure, maybe they were wrong. But just dismissing it with the juvenile "LOL" isn't showing it.

Poor Oswald. He just decided to leave his money to Marina that day, he just decided to leave his wedding ring, he just decided to bring curtain rods to work, he just decided to leave the building shortly after the assassination, he just decided to go see a move and not watch the TV, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided.....

Lots of people "just decide" to do things like that and Oswald was just like lots of other people. Except Oswald was not like lots of people (he defected to the USSR for example) and he did all of those things not some of them.

"Poor Oswald. He just decided to leave his money to Marina that day, he just decided to leave his wedding ring, he just decided to bring curtain rods to work, he just decided to leave the building shortly after the assassination, he just decided to go see a move and not watch the TV, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided....."

Does any of this provide proof that Lee shot JFK?   

I believe Lee thought he was playing a role in a HOAX .....That involved evidence being planted that would make it appear as if he had fired a shot (or shots)at JFK and then fled to Cuba.  ( The same basic hoax he had played at Walker's in April. )

I believe that he realized that he may not see Marina or the girls again if he succeeded in his scheme to infiltrate Cuba as he had infiltrated the USSR in 1959.... Thus al of the items you mentioned could have applied to the hoax attempt .....

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #82 on: August 14, 2021, 07:22:12 PM »
I once had an "exchange" (using that word loosely) with a couple of conspiracy believers who said just that, it was a "Truman show." The reason "they" killed JFK this way - in broad daylight, with hundreds watching - was deliberate. It was a "show" to tell the public that they better watch it, that if they support someone like JFK who was going to challenge our overlords that really run the country that this is going to happen. A public execution so to speak.

While that's feasible.....I doubt that the murder was executed as a warning to the American people....   The person(S) that shot JFK truly hated him.....   Mr Big who was backing those shooters who despised JFK used that hatred to his advantage.....

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #83 on: August 15, 2021, 08:37:25 PM »

Again..

Irrefutable evidence which shows Oswald's innocence:

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #84 on: August 16, 2021, 12:14:45 AM »
Oswald just happened to have a Carcano rifle and it just happened to have a couple of notches that sorta' resembled the ones on the rifle recovered from the sniper's nest. But, no, they were different. "It doesn't look the same". The experts were wrong. Because "LOL."

Sure, maybe they were wrong. But just dismissing it with the juvenile "LOL" isn't showing it.

Poor Oswald. He just decided to leave his money to Marina that day, he just decided to leave his wedding ring, he just decided to bring curtain rods to work, he just decided to leave the building shortly after the assassination, he just decided to go see a move and not watch the TV, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided.....

Lots of people "just decide" to do things like that and Oswald was just like lots of other people. Except Oswald was not like lots of people (he defected to the USSR for example) and he did all of those things not some of them.

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Oswald just happened to have a Carcano rifle and it just happened to have a couple of notches that sorta' resembled the ones on the rifle recovered from the sniper's nest. But, no, they were different. "It doesn't look the same". The experts were wrong. Because "LOL."

Sure, maybe they were wrong. But just dismissing it with the juvenile "LOL" isn't showing it.

Yeah, the overuse of "LOL" when something isn't even remotely funny has greatly diminished the impact that the acronym originally had and now being used as a cheap gag when they have no other answer is simply a product of a juvenile mind that's run out of ideas.

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Poor Oswald. He just decided to leave his money to Marina that day, he just decided to leave his wedding ring, he just decided to bring curtain rods to work, he just decided to leave the building shortly after the assassination, he just decided to go see a move and not watch the TV, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided.....

CT's have dug deep into Oswald's life and keep implying that Oswald had no motive and isn't on record as hating JFK therefore he must be innocent but will still dismiss the very basics that you have just outlined, they will isolate each example and for instance say "Left his wedding ring LOL" but when examined as a collective he symbolically left his wedding ring in Marina's family tea cup, spendthrift Oswald left almost all his money with Marina, he takes a long package to work and claims to a work mate that they are curtain rods, Oswald's rifle LOL was found on the 6th floor with still no alternate explanation on how it got there?
And why the heck would Oswald who needed his job and didn't have permission to leave the building, leave within the time it took to reach the front door?, of course the CT will say that others left too but they weren't inside at the time and some like Givens couldn't get back in, and the workers who were finally dismissed only left after some time had passed but none of them owned the rifle that killed the President and none of them were positively identified as killing Tippit and none of them were hiding in the darkened Texas Theatre miles away.
The fact that Oswald didn't seem to be curious in any way about what was happening directly outside his workplace and only wanted to get as far away as possible as soon as he could is a classic example of flight from the scene of a crime, yet CT's for some reason don't want to acknowledge the bleeding obvious.

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #85 on: August 16, 2021, 02:54:43 AM »
"Poor Oswald. He just decided to leave his money to Marina that day, he just decided to leave his wedding ring, he just decided to bring curtain rods to work, he just decided to leave the building shortly after the assassination, he just decided to go see a move and not watch the TV, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided....."

Does any of this provide proof that Lee shot JFK?   

I believe Lee thought he was playing a role in a HOAX .....That involved evidence being planted that would make it appear as if he had fired a shot (or shots)at JFK and then fled to Cuba.  ( The same basic hoax he had played at Walker's in April. )

I believe that he realized that he may not see Marina or the girls again if he succeeded in his scheme to infiltrate Cuba as he had infiltrated the USSR in 1959.... Thus al of the items you mentioned could have applied to the hoax attempt .....

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #86 on: August 16, 2021, 04:26:37 PM »
"Poor Oswald. He just decided to leave his money to Marina that day, he just decided to leave his wedding ring, he just decided to bring curtain rods to work, he just decided to leave the building shortly after the assassination, he just decided to go see a move and not watch the TV, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided, he just decided....."

Does any of this provide proof that Lee shot JFK?   

I believe Lee thought he was playing a role in a HOAX .....That involved evidence being planted that would make it appear as if he had fired a shot (or shots)at JFK and then fled to Cuba.  ( The same basic hoax he had played at Walker's in April. )

I believe that he realized that he may not see Marina or the girls again if he succeeded in his scheme to infiltrate Cuba as he had infiltrated the USSR in 1959.... Thus al of the items you mentioned could have applied to the hoax attempt .....

Do you need to attempt to assassinate the president to go to Cuba?  Oswald didn't shoot anyone to go to the USSR.  He just made a nuisance of himself.  And you believe that Oswald thought he had a reasonable chance to reach Cuba after this "hoax" that links him to the attempted assassination of the president?  That's pretty far fetched.  Oswald was not a dumb guy.  He would have realized his chances of escape were about zero.  Even hijacking a plane was a much more feasible way to reach Cuba in those days than what you are suggesting here. 

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Re: The Carcano: What Oswald Apologists don't want to hear
« Reply #87 on: August 16, 2021, 04:44:41 PM »
Do you need to attempt to assassinate the president to go to Cuba?  Oswald didn't shoot anyone to go to the USSR.  He just made a nuisance of himself.  And you believe that Oswald thought he had a reasonable chance to reach Cuba after this "hoax" that links him to the attempted assassination of the president?  That's pretty far fetched.  Oswald was not a dumb guy.  He would have realized his chances of escape were about zero.  Even hijacking a plane was a much more feasible way to reach Cuba in those days than what you are suggesting here.

Do you need to attempt to assassinate the president to go to Cuba?

This question comes from a shallow thinker, or someone who is desperate to defuse a plausible alternative to the official government approved lie as proffered by LBJ's "Special Select Blue Ribbon Committee" .       


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« Reply #87 on: August 16, 2021, 04:44:41 PM »