Is this possible?

[Bill Chapman]

Not based on Tatum. If tTippit's killer stayed on the passenger side of the car and Tippit was still alive laying on the pavement by the driver's door, did the gunman fired the fatal shot through the engine?

BAYLOR UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER

Wednesday, Feb. 1st, 1978.

OFFICE OF PHOTO DEPARTMENT OF HOBIEZELLE HOSPITAL
3500 GASTON AVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

Investigators Jack Moriarty and Joe Basteri, menders of the Select Committee on Assassinations, U.S. House of Representatives, Washington., D.C. are in the office of the Director of Photography of the hospital mentioned above, and Mr. JACK RAY TATUM, The Director, has been interviewed with regard to his first hand knowledge, of the Fatal shooting of Officer J.D. Tippit, here in Dallas, Friday, November 22nd, 1963.

Mr. Tatum will reiterate his statement to be reduced to typewritten form

(By Moriarty) "Mr. Tatum, if you'll repeat your statement slowly, I'll attempt to type it."

Although I did not remember the exact time I remember it was early in the afternoon on Friday, November 22, 1963. I was driving XXXX north on Denver and stopped at 10th St. when I first saw the squad car and men walking on the sidewalk near the squad car. Both the squad car and this young white male were coming in my direction(East on 10th Street). At the time I was just approaching the squad car, I noticed this young white male with both hands in the pockets of his zippered jacket leaning over the passenger side of the squad car. This young white male was looking into the squad car from the passenger side.

The next thing I knew I heard something that sounded like gun shots as I approached the intersection. (10th & Patton). I heard three shots in rapid (illegible)I went right through the intersection, stopped my car and turned to look back. I then saw the officer lying on the street and saw this young white man standing near the front of the squad car. Next. this man with a gun in his hand ran toward the back of the squad car, but instead of running away he stepped into the street and shot the police officer who was lying in the street. At that point this young man looked around him and then started to walk away in my direction and as he started to break into a small run in my direction, I sped off in my auto. All I saw him to the intersection and run south on Patton towards Jefferson.

Q. Did you know Lee Harvey Oswald, Officer Tippit or anyone else at the scene.
A. No

Q Did you not report this information to the authorities?
A. There were more than enough people there and I could not see what I could contribute.

Q. Is there anything you wish to add to your statement?
A. At this time I can't think or anything.

Jack Moriarty Joe Basteri Jack R. Tatum
Feb, 1 1978

[Walt Cakebread]

BAYLOR UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER

Wednesday, Feb. 1st, 1978.

OFFICE OF PHOTO DEPARTMENT OF HOBIEZELLE HOSPITAL
3500 GASTON AVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

Investigators Jack Moriarty and Joe Basteri, menders of the Select Committee on Assassinations, U.S. House of Representatives, Washington., D.C. are in the office of the Director of Photography of the hospital mentioned above, and Mr. JACK RAY TATUM, The Director, has been interviewed with regard to his first hand knowledge, of the Fatal shooting of Officer J.D. Tippit, here in Dallas, Friday, November 22nd, 1963.

Mr. Tatum will reiterate his statement to be reduced to typewritten form

(By Moriarty) "Mr. Tatum, if you'll repeat your statement slowly, I'll attempt to type it."

Although I did not remember the exact time I remember it was early in the afternoon on Friday, November 22, 1963. I was driving XXXX north on Denver and stopped at 10th St. when I first saw the squad car and men walking on the sidewalk near the squad car. Both the squad car and this young white male were coming in my direction(East on 10th Street). At the time I was just approaching the squad car, I noticed this young white male with both hands in the pockets of his zippered jacket leaning over the passenger side of the squad car. This young white male was looking into the squad car from the passenger side.

The next thing I knew I heard something that sounded like gun shots as I approached the intersection. (10th & Patton). I heard three shots in rapid (illegible)I went right through the intersection, stopped my car and turned to look back. I then saw the officer lying on the street and saw this young white man standing near the front of the squad car. Next. this man with a gun in his hand ran toward the back of the squad car, but instead of running away he stepped into the street and shot the police officer who was lying in the street. At that point this young man looked around him and then started to walk away in my direction and as he started to break into a small run in my direction, I sped off in my auto. All I saw him to the intersection and run south on Patton towards Jefferson.

Q. Did you know Lee Harvey Oswald, Officer Tippit or anyone else at the scene.
A. No

Q Did you not report this information to the authorities?
A. There were more than enough people there and I could not see what I could contribute.

Q. Is there anything you wish to add to your statement?
A. At this time I can't think or anything.

Jack Moriarty Joe Basteri Jack R. Tatum
Feb, 1 1978

Next. this man with a gun in his hand ran toward the back of the squad car, but instead of running away he stepped into the street and shot the police officer who was lying in the street. At that point this young man looked around him and then started to walk away in my direction and as he started to break into a small run in my direction,[/b]

If you know what all other witnesses said about the gun man's actions, then you are aware that Tatum's description doesn't fit with any of the other witnesses....   Tatum was probably making it up from what he heard on news reports....

[Gerry Down]

If you know what all other witnesses said about the gun man's actions, then you are aware that Tatum's description doesn't fit with any of the other witnesses....   Tatum was probably making it up from what he heard on news reports....

I think Tatum is genuine. Read the Davis sisters accounts. They describe a pause in the shooting sequence, long enough for one of the sisters to get out of bed before a last shot is fired. Ted Callaway describes a similar break in the shooting sequence.

Tatum would have to have read Calloway and the Davis sisters accounts which mentions a break in the shooting sequence, be aware that Tippit had been shot in the head at an odd angle, and then invented a story to fit these accounts to the odd angle Tippit had been shot in the head, whereby he says Tippit had been shot in the head while on the ground (hence the odd angle). That would make Tatum an extraordinarily good liar, or in my opinion a guy simply telling the truth.

[Walt Cakebread]

I think Tatum is genuine. Read the Davis sisters accounts. They describe a pause in the shooting sequence, long enough for one of the sisters to get out of bed before a last shot is fired. Ted Callaway describes a similar break in the shooting sequence.

Tatum would have to have read Calloway and the Davis sisters accounts which mentions a break in the shooting sequence, be aware that Tippit had been shot in the head at an odd angle, and then invented a story to fit these accounts to the odd angle Tippit had been shot in the head, whereby he says Tippit had been shot in the head while on the ground (hence the odd angle). That would make Tatum an extraordinarily good liar, or in my opinion a guy simply telling the truth.

The Davis sisters said the gunman walked across the lawn while extracting and discarding spent shells (ONE AT A TIME)...Which is entirely different than Tatum's description of the killer's actions.....    And the Davis girls account squares with Benevides , Scoggins, and Markham...  That's at least 4 witnesses against Tatum....

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Jim D certainly seems to consider himself a leading authority on the assassination. Or, as he says "one of the most respected researchers and writers on the political assassinations of the 1960s..."

One can soberly and responsibly ask "respected...by whom?" Outside of the Garrisonites, he doesn't have all that much of a following.

At least, he's kind of prolific. Can't say much good about the fruits of what he calls his research though.

I don't see how he has any special expertise or knowledge on the actual assassination, on the specifics of the event. He's a garden variety conspiracy believer that dismisses the evidence against Oswald as being faked or planted or manufactured. Nothing authoritative here.

He is special, an authority if you will, in what I call "conspiracy history." That is this myth of a transformational JFK, a president who was going to end the Cold War, leave Vietnam, normalize relations with Castro, and lead America away from the evil forces that had, using a "Red Scare" tactic, stolen our democracy for the benefits of war profits and power. And so we get the Garrisonite history where, as he wrote in his last book, "Heritage of Stone":

"After the United States ascended to the position of the most powerful military nation in history, in the midst of its accumulation of the most effective death machinery of all time, there occurred the accident of the election of a President who regarded the entire human race with compassion. By the time this happened, the cold war had become our major industry, and the Central Intelligence Agency had become the clandestine arm of our military-industrial complex and, in the process, the most effective assassination machine in the world."

And then the assassination: "A successful coup d’état affects not merely the history of a nation but may change its power structure. With the killing of John Kennedy, the very position of the Presidency was drastically reduced in status. Henceforth, the President would be a broker for the war machine. He would be an advocate and spokesman for the Pentagon. All Presidents who followed Kennedy would have to know their impotence, no matter what their public role."

That's the DiEugenio/Garrison conspiracy history, a history he knows a great deal about. His problem is that most of what he knows is paranoid nonsense and even worse, false.

[Walt Cakebread]

I don't see how he has any special expertise or knowledge on the actual assassination, on the specifics of the event. He's a garden variety conspiracy believer that dismisses the evidence against Oswald as being faked or planted or manufactured. Nothing authoritative here.

He is special, an authority if you will, in what I call "conspiracy history." That is this myth of a transformational JFK, a president who was going to end the Cold War, leave Vietnam, normalize relations with Castro, and lead America away from the evil forces that had, using a "Red Scare" tactic, stolen our democracy for the benefits of war profits and power. And so we get the Garrisonite history where, as he wrote in his last book, "Heritage of Stone":

"After the United States ascended to the position of the most powerful military nation in history, in the midst of its accumulation of the most effective death machinery of all time, there occurred the accident of the election of a President who regarded the entire human race with compassion. By the time this happened, the cold war had become our major industry, and the Central Intelligence Agency had become the clandestine arm of our military-industrial complex and, in the process, the most effective assassination machine in the world."

And then the assassination: "A successful coup d’état affects not merely the history of a nation but may change its power structure. With the killing of John Kennedy, the very position of the Presidency was drastically reduced in status. Henceforth, the President would be a broker for the war machine. He would be an advocate and spokesman for the Pentagon. All Presidents who followed Kennedy would have to know their impotence, no matter what their public role."

That's the DiEugenio/Garrison conspiracy history, a history he knows a great deal about. His problem is that most of what he knows is paranoid nonsense and even worse, false.

"After the United States ascended to the position of the most powerful military nation in history, in the midst of its accumulation of the most effective death machinery of all time, there occurred the accident of the election of a President
  A President was elected primarily because his Father (Joe Kennedy) bought the presidency through his influence with the Mafia who controlled many votes in Illinois.   JFK didn't know that old crooked Joe was making deals with the mob, that JFK would have to settle once he was in office.     John,  regarded the entire human race with compassion. By the time this happened, the cold war had become our major industry, and the Central Intelligence Agency had become the clandestine arm of our military-industrial complex and, in the process, the most effective assassination machine in the world."

[Mitch Todd]

I don't see how he has any special expertise or knowledge on the actual assassination, on the specifics of the event. He's a garden variety conspiracy believer that dismisses the evidence against Oswald as being faked or planted or manufactured. Nothing authoritative here.

He is special, an authority if you will, in what I call "conspiracy history." That is this myth of a transformational JFK, a president who was going to end the Cold War, leave Vietnam, normalize relations with Castro, and lead America away from the evil forces that had, using a "Red Scare" tactic, stolen our democracy for the benefits of war profits and power. And so we get the Garrisonite history where, as he wrote in his last book, "Heritage of Stone":

"After the United States ascended to the position of the most powerful military nation in history, in the midst of its accumulation of the most effective death machinery of all time, there occurred the accident of the election of a President who regarded the entire human race with compassion. By the time this happened, the cold war had become our major industry, and the Central Intelligence Agency had become the clandestine arm of our military-industrial complex and, in the process, the most effective assassination machine in the world."

And then the assassination: "A successful coup d’état affects not merely the history of a nation but may change its power structure. With the killing of John Kennedy, the very position of the Presidency was drastically reduced in status. Henceforth, the President would be a broker for the war machine. He would be an advocate and spokesman for the Pentagon. All Presidents who followed Kennedy would have to know their impotence, no matter what their public role."

That's the DiEugenio/Garrison conspiracy history, a history he knows a great deal about. His problem is that most of what he knows is paranoid nonsense and even worse, false.

I wouldn't call him garden-variety. He's too prolific for that. You're still right in the sense that he's a fervent believer in the Garrisonite faith, and regularly huffs the fumes of Camelot. 

[Tom Scully]

Is it possible that an individual who believes in a massive conspiracy in the JFKA can also be considered the worlds leading authority on the event? I speak of Jim DiEugenio. I’ve had enough arguments/debates with DiEugenio over the years to recognize one fact: he doesn’t have a layman’s knowledge of the actual event. Why exactly is this individual lionized throughout the CT community?

I've been asking that last question for eight years now....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-81.html#The-Stupid-Things-James-DiEugenio-Believes

"How anyone can possibly even begin to take DiEugenio seriously when it comes to the JFK assassination
is a real mystery to me. .... And yet despite the above laundry list of silliness, James DiEugenio is still held
in high esteem by many people when it comes to his evaluation of the evidence and his assessment of the facts
concerning the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Unbelievable." -- David Von Pein; January 2013

There are probably a half dozen types of personalities in "this business". I consider it a blessing I've only been involved, in earnest, for the past 12-1/2 years.

Most conduct themselves under "a belief system".

David, remember DiEugenio's reaction to Lance figuring out that the inked number sequence across the front of the disputed Postal Money Order allegedly purchased by Oswald in Dallas that the WC concluded had been deposited in the bank account of Klein's Sporting Goods in Chicago days later, was a tracking number the U.S. Treasury Dept.'s newly implemented automated processing and archiving system had initiated in early 1963?

DiEugenio posted at DPF that the authentication of the Klein's rifle purchase PMO resulting from its blue inked tracking number displayed on its face (Lance had just figured out the placement and purpose of) resulting in retrieval from the newly established automated PMO archive in Arlington, VA (Armstrong claimed it could only be retrieved from the KC PMO Center...) on the evening of 11/23/63 could still not have happened because it was imbedded in John Armstrong's entire scenario of official skullduggery in a coup in which the Assassination of JFK was just one of several "Ops". An example to try to make my point clearer... if John Glenn's capsule had been blown up on a Cape Canaveral launch pad and Castro blamed, the murder of the astronaut by the U.S. JCoS would have been, in the Operation Northwoods plan implementation, what the murder of JFK was in "A Coup in Dallas". In my example, if it was later confirmed that the launch pad explosion resulting in Glenn's death was the result of an accidental system failure, that would be irrelevant if the JCoS had succeeded, JFK having succumbed to the immediate political pressure Operation Northwoods would instigate and stoke, and had ordered the swift invasion of Cuba and the elimination of Castro!

Before I discovered and proved that a new PMO, point of sale printer had been installed in Dallas in January, 1963 as part of a national rollout over several months that had been announced in mid 1962, resulting in the elimination of the Post Office contract with the Federal Reserve for manual keypunching of the dollar amount of each deposited PMO during a Fed. Res. regional bank clearing process, and Lance Payette presented his tracking number analysis,
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1058.html

... I had been impressed by DiEugenio's critical opinion of the result of John Simkin encouraging and promoting Peter Janney's claims about the murderer of Mary Meyer.

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/update-beware-the-douglas-janney-simkin-silver-bullets
Update: Beware the Douglas, Janney, Simkin Silver Bullets
Apr 15, 2008 — But let us move on to Simkin and Mary Meyer. On the thread he created, Simkin tried to say that accusing him of having Bill O'Reilly type ...

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/janney-peter-mary-s-mosaic-part-2
Peter Janney, Mary's Mosaic (Part 2) - Kennedys and Kinghttps://www.kennedysandking.com › janney-peter-mar...
Jul 12, 2012 — The first two people to inform me of Peter Janney's upcoming book on Mary Meyer were Lisa Pease and John Simkin.

I was impressed enough to "rattle" Simkin and his friend HP Albarelli who was a contributor to and enabler of the operating theory of Janney's book, "Mary's Mosaic" to get both DiEugenio and I booted from Simkin's forum at the urging of author Albarelli.

David. I know you know how that feels...

After DiEugenio pushed back so insistently against Lance Payette and I in reaction to the impact on John Armstrong's presentation that the Klein's PMO was illegitimate because its serial number was grossly out of sequence compared to PMO serial numbers on Oswald's Dallas Post Office purchases just a few months before that the Dept. of State had received from Oswald by late 1962 to payoff a transportation loan enabling the Oswalds and child to cover exit transit expenses from the USSR to the USA, and a PMO reportedly retrieved from an Arlington, VA location being inconsistent with retrieval from where all paid PMO should have been stored, in KC, MO, a postal PMO authentication, fraud investigation, and archive that John Armstrong was not aware had become obsolete and was winding down operation in March, 1963 to ultimate closure months later.

http://www.uspostalbulletins.com/PDF/Vol83_Issue20338_19621129.pdf#search="money%20order"


DiEugenio and Armstrong supporter David Joseph reacted by using Len Osanic on Black Op Radio to inform "the community" that the archivist in Arlington who reportedly retrieved the Klein's PMO on the evening of 11/23/63 and transported it to the DC home of postal official Marks for a prearranged transfer to SS custody, did not actally exist. I responded by producing the archivist's death certificate which included his home address and occupation identical to the description in WCR docs!

So, by the time I discovered and presented this, DiEugenio's personal attacks as push back no longer stung as much.:

https://jfkfacts.org/provocative-prolific-joan-mellen/#comment-869223
April 12, 2016 at 1:25 pm
...
https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Unredacted_-_Episode_1_-_Transcript.html
Unredacted Episode 1: Transcript of Interview with Joan Mellen
Joan Mellen is the author of A Farewell to Justice: Jim Garrison, JFK’s Assassination, and the Case That Should Have Changed History. This interview was conducted on 22 Feb 2006. Tyler Weaver provided the introduction, and the interview was conducted by Rex Bradford.
…….
REX: I – I think –

JOAN: – when Baldwin was present, he was a CIA asset, his brother worked for the International Trade Mart and Clay Shaw, David Baldwin, and these, these are CIA people….

Using only internet resources and in the course of a couple of weeks of part time research I shared in comments on this website, (see- https://jfkfacts.org/assassination/review/who-was-the-only-man-to-ever-face-legal-charges-in-jfks-assassination/#comment-856847 )
I found these details, not published or mentioned, ever, by Joan Mellen.

In the course of attempting to determine if my new fact checked research details were actually original, I found identical details, by author of a biography of Clay Shaw,
Donald H Carpenter.





From Joan Mellen's book.:
https://books.google.com/books?id=9mQtAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT138&lpg=PT138&dq=%22joan+mellen%22+stephen+lemann&source=bl&ots=JQ0cQ7W_xe&sig=zjEbm-HJgiFBiqsZJ_VSNijJh0U&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAvsOe1YnMAhVLHD4KHdSUDKoQ6AEIQjAF#v=onepage&q=%22joan%20mellen%22%20stephen%20lemann&f=false

The best face I can put on this is that Garrison misled and failed to disclose to his friend, Joan Mellen, and editor of his own book, the co-writer of the JFK the movie screenplay, Zachary Sklar.

The most troubling thing I’ve learned is that almost no one seems to appreciate being exposed to this new information. They already knew what they knew and indicate a preference of not having to consider Garrison’s actual proximity to those even he described as CIA sponsored adversaries. ...

I posted the details of "the CIA people" author Joan Mellen described as examples of "proof" CIA was "thwarting" Garrison's efforts while in fact, the brothers Ms. Mellen named were first cousins of Garrison's wife and author Carpenter in his biography of Clay Shaw proved David Baldwin had made Shaw aware of this at least from the time of Shaw's arrest, and that David Baldwin's wife was step-sister of "WDSU's outside counsel dispensing funds on behalf of CIA to defense lawyers of subpoenaed individuals" Garrison's June, 1967 letter of complaint detailed to the FCC commissioner, in the 2019 comments sections of two articles reporting on the collaboration of Stone and DiEugenio, but the comments sections were later removed.

https://www.thewrap.com/agc-oliver-stone-jfk-destiny-betrayed/

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