Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #168 on: September 07, 2021, 02:06:20 AM »
Huh? Was the lady trying to get in Oswald's cab in the Public Domain or not? And how about the North Beckley journey, that you conveniently edited out? LMFAO!

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Oswald's cab? You're losing it, Mr Mytton!

Now, first things first: the lady trying to get in the cab was not in the public domain, but nor was it in any domain. How exactly is this "specific information" an impressive demonstration of the veracity of Mr Whaley's story?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #169 on: September 07, 2021, 02:09:27 AM »
Question! How come Mr Whaley's affidavit only describes a "dark shirt"? Why is he not yet able to give its color?

Reasonable Answer! He's only seen the arrest shirt in black and white!

Follow-Up Question! Under what circumstances might one be expected to see a given colored object only in black and white?

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« Last Edit: September 07, 2021, 02:13:44 AM by Alan Ford »

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #170 on: September 07, 2021, 02:14:37 AM »
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Mr. FRITZ. .... I asked him what happened there when he caught the cab and he said there was a lady trying to catch a cab and he told the busdriver, the busdriver told him to tell the lady to catch the cab behind him and he said he rode that cab over near his home, he rode home in a cab.

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I'm having trouble understanding your argument....

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https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/mcwatters.htm
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Mr. BALL - Do you remember what he said to you when he asked you for the transfer?
Mr. McWATTERS - Well, the reason I recall the incident, I had--there was a lady that when I stopped in this traffic, there was a lady who had a suitcase and she said, "I have got to make a 1 o'clock train at Union Station," and she said, "I don't believe from the looks of this traffic you are going to be held up."
She said, "Would you give me a transfer and I am going to walk on down," which is about from where I was at that time about 7 or 8 blocks to Union Station and she asked me if I would give her a transfer in case I did get through the traffic if I would pick her up on the way.
So, I said, "I sure will." So I gave her a transfer and opened the door and as she was going out the gentleman I had picked up about 2 blocks asked for a transfer and got off at the same place in the middle of the block where the lady did.
Mr. BALL - Where was that near, what intersection?
Mr. McWATTERS - It was the intersection near Lamar Street, it was near Poydras and Lamar Street. It is a short block, but the main intersection there is Lamar Street.
Mr. BALL - He had been on the bus about 2 blocks?
Mr. McWATTERS - About 2 blocks; yes, sir. ...
« Last Edit: September 07, 2021, 02:16:09 AM by Tom Scully »

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #171 on: September 07, 2021, 02:16:57 AM »
Oswald's cab? You're losing it, Mr Mytton!

Now, first things first: the lady trying to get in the cab was not in the public domain, but nor was it in any domain. How exactly is this "specific information" an impressive demonstration of the veracity of Mr Whaley's story?

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but nor was it in any domain.

Exactly, it was exclusive information only known to Whaley and Oswald, thanks for proving my point. Thumb1: Thumb1:

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #172 on: September 07, 2021, 02:28:59 AM »
Exactly, it was exclusive information only known to Whaley and Oswald, thanks for proving my point. Thumb1: Thumb1:

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Mr Mytton, I know what you call "proof" tends to be thin gruel, but your circular, anachronistic argument above is poor even by your standards!

Here's our chronology:

1. Mr Whaley tells the "investigating" authorities about a lady trying to get in his cab

2. AFTER this, according to the interrogation report, Mr Oswald admits to having taken a cab and confirms Mr Whaley's story about the lady

You, being a Warren Gullible, assume that Mr Oswald really said this
I, not being a Warren Gullible, advise caution with that naive assumption

And you really have no defeater for my argument--------beyond a mindless Warren Gullible assurance that "The investigating authorities would never lie, they were devoted servants of truth and justice"

In sum: As with the supah-dupah-impressive physical details you made so much of before their probative value imploded in your hands, you've got nothing here!  Thumb1:

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #173 on: September 07, 2021, 03:01:46 AM »
Mr Mytton, I know what you call "proof" tends to be thin gruel, but your circular, anachronistic argument above is poor even by your standards!

Here's our chronology:

1. Mr Whaley tells the "investigating" authorities about a lady trying to get in his cab

2. AFTER this, according to the interrogation report, Mr Oswald admits to having taken a cab and confirms Mr Whaley's story about the lady

You, being a Warren Gullible, assume that Mr Oswald really said this
I, not being a Warren Gullible, advise caution with that naive assumption

And you really have no defeater for my argument--------beyond a mindless Warren Gullible assurance that "The investigating authorities would never lie, they were devoted servants of truth and justice"

In sum: As with the supah-dupah-impressive physical details you made so much of before their probative value imploded in your hands, you've got nothing here!  Thumb1:

Wow, so much unproven conjecture and all without even a scintilla of evidence to support this ever increasing level of paranoia, and when you have no answers to what is in fact my "supah-dupah" arguments of evidence that only Whaley exclusively knew that wasn't in the public domain, you suddenly shift the goalposts and now you're reduced to this new level of absurd arrogance that all the inconvenient witnesses lied and all the problematic evidence was manufactured, go away and try and convince someone/anyone of your unsubstantiated ideas and let's see how far that gets you.

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In sum: As with the supah-dupah-impressive physical details you made so much of before their probative value imploded in your hands, you've got nothing here!

What a pathetic attempt to score points, I was the one who first EDITED my previous post and directed you to the EDITED post and I was the one who first posted the non Dallas newspaper and all the newspaper's thereafter and I was the one who first admitted that Whaley could have gained information from the newspaper article, that is if the same info was published in Dallas and when the tables were turned and I posted non public domain evidence that only Whaley and Oswald knew, you alter the rules and make endless unprovable paranoid claims in a weak attempt to defend your untenable position.

Btw if Fritz was going to lie why would he lie about an insignificant cab ride which only gets Oswald from "A" to "B"? Wouldn't it be to his and the rest of the conspirators benefit to say any or all of the following?

Oswald admitted owning the rifle.
Oswald admitted hating Kennedy.
Oswald admitted going to Mexico.
Oswald admitted carrying a large package.
Oswald admitted that the backyard photos were actually Oswald.


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« Last Edit: September 07, 2021, 11:27:33 AM by John Mytton »

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #174 on: September 07, 2021, 03:21:24 AM »
Mr Mytton, I know what you call "proof" tends to be thin gruel, but your circular, anachronistic argument above is poor even by your standards!

Here's our chronology:

1. Mr Whaley tells the "investigating" authorities about a lady trying to get in his cab

2. AFTER this, according to the interrogation report, Mr Oswald admits to having taken a cab and confirms Mr Whaley's story about the lady

You, being a Warren Gullible, assume that Mr Oswald really said this
I, not being a Warren Gullible, advise caution with that naive assumption

And you really have no defeater for my argument--------beyond a mindless Warren Gullible assurance that "The investigating authorities would never lie, they were devoted servants of truth and justice"

In sum: As with the supah-dupah-impressive physical details you made so much of before their probative value imploded in your hands, you've got nothing here!  Thumb1:

Mr. FRITZ. .... I asked him what happened there when he caught the cab and he said there was a lady trying to catch a cab and he told the busdriver, the busdriver told him to tell the lady to catch the cab behind him and he said he rode that cab over near his home, he rode home in a cab.

Lee couldn't have arrived at the Greyhound Taxi stand prior to 12:48....  When he got in a CITY cab a woman approached and asked the driver to call her a cab....   


Fritz told Whaley that Lee Oswald claimed that a woman asked the driver to call her a taxi, and asked Whaley if he remember that incident......Whaley said , yes, he recalled a woman asking him to call her a taxi.... and so he did,  he said  "Ok Lady you're a taxi "