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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2021, 05:02:39 PM »
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The man with the umbrella in this pic is allegedly Rip Robertson in 1964. It was posted by John O'Hare's son

People have speculated Rip & O'Hare are the guys pictured in the plaza.







O'Hare's son, so far, hasn't said if he believes it was his father & Rip Robertson photographed in dealey plaza. But I thought it was a hint that he posted this pic of his father's friend Rip!

BTW, November 24th 1964 CIA led an invasion into the Congo (Assault on Stanleyville – November 1964), to free some hostages, which O'Hare's son said this pic was then taken (in the Congo). Would be interesting to know the pics real date. Kinda like Rip might have been commemorating something with this umbrella and bottle of booze in his other hand. Just my opinion ... of course.

Interesting stuff, Mr Reeves.....  And your speculation about Rip Robertson commemorating "something" is not without solid reasoning.   Robertson was a card or two short of having a full deck.  ( I think he watched too many John Wayne war movies. )   The fact that he's holding the umbrella and a bottle of booze supports the idea that he was missing a couple of cards....

PS:   I believe that you're on the trail....  Good luck to you. Sir....   

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2021, 05:13:29 PM »

Hi Robert,  I just wanted you to know that the photo of Roberson with the umbrella had a real impact ....

I've been ridiculed and mocked because I've pointed out the red rings on the windows of the TSBD were a message to JFK reminding him that he had pulled the air cover for the brigade at Red Beach BOP .
  ( JFK didn't pull the air cover, but the CIA handlers lied to the Cubans and told them that JFK had promised US Navy air cover)

Red Beach was marked for the expected aircover ....Red Rings had been placed on the beach to identify the Brigade's position.

The red rings on the windows of the TSBD came from the same mind that would hold an open umbrella and a bottle of booze....   

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2021, 08:34:33 PM »
Why aren't you concerned the photo might be faked.



The rings concerned fire safety regulations. ::)

The rings concerned fire safety regulations. ::)

You WC  believers have been trying to sell that BS  for years....  and it's nothing but BS.


In this photo there are four red rings visible.....( I believe there were actually seven red rings stuck on the windows of the TSBD. ) Perhaps you can verify your contention that they were some sort of weird "fire safety regulation".... by citing that regulation.....  And also perhaps you can explain why the red rings disappeared and do not appear in photos taken a couple of days after the ambush murder. 

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2021, 08:35:24 PM »
The man with the black umbrella in the Dallas crowd on the day of the JFK assassination remains an enigma to some and a sinister figure to others.
 Believe what you will, but this much is true: No umbrellas are allowed in Dealey Plaza during Friday's public commemoration of the assassination.
 https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/1122/JFK-assassination-Why-suspicions-still-linger-about-Umbrella-Man
1 The Signal Man on Elm Street was the thread title given by the poster so I thought that is what he believed.
2..I Never knew about the taboo on umbrellas at the 50th anniversary in Dealey.
However on that day they barricaded that general area and only people with tickets to the occasion were allowed in.
Also, it rained that day so those lucky people got a chilly barrage of moisture.
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In Dallas, about 5,000 people gathered under a bitterly cold drizzle for the understated ceremony in Dealey Plaza. In a nod to Kennedy’s military service, the US naval academy men’s glee club performed America the Beautiful. Access to Dealey Plaza was tightly controlled: distributed through a lottery, and Dallas police conducted background checks on the winners.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/22/jfk-50th-anniversary-assassination-live


 

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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2021, 09:25:57 PM »

“One theory is that the assassins wanted Kennedy to know (in his final seconds) exactly why he was being killed,” writes blogger Croft Randle. “The umbrella symbolized Kennedy’s … refusal to provide a covering ‘umbrella’ of air support during the CIA’s failed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. The term had been widely used and the significance of the raised umbrella would have instantly been understood by Kennedy.”


The umbrella plus the red rings on the windows of the TSBD was intended to remind JFK that he had  pulled the UMBRELLA OF AIR COVER and the red rings on RED  beach were there as markers to the aircraft ......

Didn't you used to argue that the red rings were some type of "signal" to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen (as though he couldn't figure that out when the shots rang out seconds later)?  I know narrative consistency is not a CTer requirement but just trying to keep track of all the different yarns.

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2021, 09:28:47 PM »
The rings concerned fire safety regulations. ::)

You WC  believers have been trying to sell that BS  for years....  and it's nothing but BS.

In this photo there are four red rings visible.....( I believe there were actually seven red rings stuck on the windows of the TSBD. ) Perhaps you can verify your contention that they were some sort of weird "fire safety regulation".... by citing that regulation.....  And also perhaps you can explain why the red rings disappeared and do not appear in photos taken a couple of days after the ambush murder.

Gary Mack and others have posted newspaper articles that long predated the assassination (by decades) that explained the fire safety purpose of the red rings.  The only thing "weird" about this is your refusal to accept the documented explanation. 

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2021, 09:54:36 PM »
Didn't you used to argue that the red rings were some type of "signal" to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen (as though he couldn't figure that out when the shots rang out seconds later)?  I know narrative consistency is not a CTer requirement but just trying to keep track of all the different yarns.

Didn't you used to argue that the red rings were some type of "signal" to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen


The answer is Yes and No....  The red rings had a two fold purpose.... To notify JFK that he was being executed for pulling the aircover for the brigade at red beach at BOP.....AND it was also a signal to LBJ that everything was set on "go" and he merely had to give the "thumbs up" so the sniper's would know that LBJ had their backs.

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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2021, 11:39:30 PM »
Gary Mack and others have posted newspaper articles that long predated the assassination (by decades) that explained the fire safety purpose of the red rings.  The only thing "weird" about this is your refusal to accept the documented explanation.

Gary Mack and others have posted newspaper articles that long predated the assassination (by decades) that explained the fire safety purpose of the red rings.

Yes,  during WWII many cities had regulations about posting red rings on windows to enable firemen to know where to place ladders so the occupants could escape a building that was on fire.... if the building didn't have a fire escape.

Those rings were placed on windows that were at the end of a corridor .... 

Oh by the way, Mr Smart Guy....  Was the TSBD equipped with a fire escape?

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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2021, 11:39:30 PM »