Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?

[Steve M. Galbraith]

It's fun to just make stuff up, isn't it Walter?

His best one - and it's difficult to choose just one - is that LBJ was going to announce to the public that Castro was behind the assassination. But the Soviets learned about the announcement ahead of time and had sent bombers armed with nuclear weapons to destroy New York city. The planes were on their way. With the nuclear warheads on board.

But LBJ was told that the planes were on their way and so he canceled the announcement.

I mean, you have to admit that's one helluva pile of malarkey.

[John Mytton]

His best one - and it's difficult to choose just one - is that LBJ was going to announce to the public that Castro was behind the assassination. But the Soviets learned about the announcement ahead of time and had sent bombers armed with nuclear weapons to destroy New York city. The planes were on their way. With the nuclear warheads on board.

But LBJ was told that the planes were on their way and so he canceled the announcement.

I mean, you have to admit that's one helluva pile of malarkey.

It's circular reasoning at its finest, when you start out with the improbable assertion that Oswald must be innocent and all the officials lied then you are left with cherry picking minor contradictions and making illogical connections with these slim pickings but of course Walt's fabrications are legendary and he goes the extra mile and at least attempts to create a narrative but as can be seen any alternative to the official version is ridiculous.

JohnM

[Walt Cakebread]

It's circular reasoning at its finest, when you start out with the improbable assertion that Oswald must be innocent and all the officials lied then you are left with cherry picking minor contradictions and making illogical connections with these slim pickings but of course Walt's fabrications are legendary and he goes the extra mile and at least attempts to create a narrative but as can be seen any alternative to the official version is ridiculous.

JohnM

of course Walt's fabrications are legendary and he goes the extra mile and at least attempts to create a narrative but as can be seen any alternative to the official version is ridiculous.

Let's discuss my "fabrication"  about  Lee Oswald's sojourn from the TSBD to the Texas Theater......

I'll remind you that you have insisted that Lee Oswald was the young man who was the passenger in Bill Whaley's taxi that afternoon.   

I've "fabricated" an account that utterly destroys your unsound "reasoning" ......

A) The WC investigators stated that Lee Oswald was still at the TSBD at 12:33 pm  (12:33 is the approximate time that the young man got in Whaley's  taxi at the Grey Hound bus depot.)

B) Whaley said that his passenger was wearing a BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers.  ( Lee Oswald was wearing a REDDISH BROWN SHIRT with a BUTTON DOWN COLLAR, and dark grey trousers)

C) The WC investigators determined that when Lee left the TSBD he walked east on Elm street and boarded a bus at Murphy street at 12:40. When the bus became stuck in traffic he got off the bus at 12:44, and walked to the taxi stand at the Greyhound bus depot.

D) Lee hired a CITY taxi to take him to the rooming house in Oak Cliff and entered the taxi at 12:48.

E) During the trip Lee said he and the driver of the CITY cab talked and the driver told him that the President had been shot. ( Whaley said that his passenger would not engage in conversation )

F) Lee arrived at the rooming house at 1:00pm,  and he paid the driver 85 CENTS.  ( Whaley recorded that he charged the young man who was dressed in A BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers 95 CENTS and the man handed him a dollar bill and told him to keep the change)

END OF FABRICATION.....Your rebuttal please.....

[Walt Cakebread]

From May 2013....

WALT CAKEBREAD SAID:

It would have taken several minutes to place the rifle in position and then cover it with paper and boxes of books.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Absolute nonsense. You make it sound like he was constructing the Pyramids.

FWIW, it's my own opinion (based on LHO's clipboard being found very near this same area of the stairs and rifle) that Oswald likely pre-arranged his rifle-stashing area near the stairwell in advance of 12:30 PM.

But even if he didn't pre-arrange it, Walt's theory is just more of the same over-the-top dreck that Walt always utilizes in order to keep from having to admit what the evidence so plainly shows--and that is:

Walt's favorite "patsy" was, in truth, the assassin of President Kennedy -- and Oswald himself hid his own rifle in those boxes before fleeing down the nearby stairway.

Simple and Occam-like. But Walt likes the "Pyramids" approach better.

DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:

[A conspiracy theorist going by the username] "Curt Jester", in his post linked HERE, is assigning ludicrous levels of assumed perfection to things that can never be pinned down that accurately.

All of these "timelines" revolving around Vickie Adams, Sandra Styles, Bill Shelley, Marrion Baker, and also Lee Harvey Oswald can only be estimated to a certain degree, and can never be micro-analyzed right down to the second....and everybody knows it (even "Curt Jester").

If Vickie Adams' timeline...is off just a TINY little bit--then Oswald can make it. That's all it takes. And yet a whole book has been written by Barry Ernest that focuses chiefly on a theory that is completely destroyed if Miss Adams is just SLIGHTLY off in her time estimate.

And yet, even though most readers SHOULD realize that Ernest's whole book is based on a TIME ESTIMATE given by a witness, Ernest's book has, amazingly, received glowing reviews from the Amazon readers, averaging 4.4 stars (out of 5 maximum) at Amazon.com (through this writing on May 7, 2013).

It goes to show how eager the public is to disbelieve the Warren Commission, and how eager and willing they are to base their pro-conspiracy thinking on something as flimsy as one witness' estimate of when she started down those Book Depository stairs. Kinda sad, isn't it?

More....
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-743.html

It would have taken several minutes to place the rifle in position and then cover it with paper and boxes of books.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Absolute nonsense. You make it sound like he was constructing the Pyramids.

One of the cops that was there ( I don't recall who) said that it was obvious that the rifle had been carefully hidden. And this was long before anybody knew about the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter.    Whoever observed  that the rifle had NOT been hastily cast aside was with the original group of cops who saw the rifle before any boxes were moved or the rifle touched.

Icould make a WAG and say that it was Seymour Weitzman who observed that the rifle was not hastily cast aside., but that's simply a guess..... I hope I can find the officer's declaration......


Hoorah....I've found it.....Tom Alyea observed that the hhiding place for the rifle was constructed BEFORE the shooting.

Q - Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly, if we considered that he was interviewed by Baker and Truly less than 1 minute after the last shot. According to you and with your perfect knowledge of the building, was that possible?

Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly,

 


The rifle was "perfectly hidden"....  Do the official DPD insitu photos show a "perfectly hidden" rifle ??

 


 According to you and with your perfect knowledge of the building, was that possible?

Yes, Oswald had time to hide his rifle. The location was in front of the stairway that Oswald took to leave the floor. It was obviously pre constructed so he could slip the rifle under the overhanging boxes as he entered the down stairway, only about five feet away. It would have not taken him over two seconds. No boxes had to be moved. The rifle did not touch any of the three overhanging boxes, and there were no boxes touching the rifle. When Lt. Day retrieved it, he pulled it effortlessly from under the overhanging boxes. This was the first time any of us saw the scope, bolt and trigger housing.

It was obviously pre constructed

Alyea recognized that the site had to have been constructed BEFORE the shooting.....

[Walt Cakebread]

It would have taken several minutes to place the rifle in position and then cover it with paper and boxes of books.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Absolute nonsense. You make it sound like he was constructing the Pyramids.

One of the cops that was there ( I don't recall who) said that it was obvious that the rifle had been carefully hidden. And this was long before anybody knew about the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter.    Whoever observed  that the rifle had NOT been hastily cast aside was with the original group of cops who saw the rifle before any boxes were moved or the rifle touched.

Icould make a WAG and say that it was Seymour Weitzman who observed that the rifle was not hastily cast aside., but that's simply a guess..... I hope I can find the officer's declaration......


Hoorah....I've found it.....Tom Alyea observed that the hhiding place for the rifle was constructed BEFORE the shooting.

Q - Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly, if we considered that he was interviewed by Baker and Truly less than 1 minute after the last shot. According to you and with your perfect knowledge of the building, was that possible?

Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly,

 


The rifle was "perfectly hidden"....  Do the official DPD insitu photos show a "perfectly hidden" rifle ??

 


 According to you and with your perfect knowledge of the building, was that possible?

Yes, Oswald had time to hide his rifle. The location was in front of the stairway that Oswald took to leave the floor. It was obviously pre constructed so he could slip the rifle under the overhanging boxes as he entered the down stairway, only about five feet away. It would have not taken him over two seconds. No boxes had to be moved. The rifle did not touch any of the three overhanging boxes, and there were no boxes touching the rifle. When Lt. Day retrieved it, he pulled it effortlessly from under the overhanging boxes. This was the first time any of us saw the scope, bolt and trigger housing.

It was obviously pre constructed

Alyea recognized that the site had to have been constructed BEFORE the shooting.....

Question for Tom Alyea.....

Q - Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly, if we considered that he was interviewed by Baker and Truly less than 1 minute after the last shot. According to you and with your perfect knowledge of the building, was that possible?

Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly,

Tom Alyea answered:....

  Yes, Oswald had time to hide his rifle. The location was in front of the stairway that Oswald took to leave the floor. It was obviously pre constructed so he could slip the rifle under the overhanging boxes as he entered the down stairway, only about five feet away. It would have not taken him over two seconds. No boxes had to be moved. The rifle did not touch any of the three overhanging boxes, and there were no boxes touching the rifle. When Lt. Day retrieved it, he pulled it effortlessly from under the overhanging boxes. This was the first time any of us saw the scope, bolt and trigger housing.

It was obviously pre constructed

Tom Alyea overlooked a few important aspects.....

"It was obviously pre constructed so he could slip the rifle under the overhanging boxes"

But Tom that rifle weighed 9 pounds and it had a scope and a floppy sling  protruding off the left side of the rifle... it wasn't a light, and  easy to handle piece of 1X 4 lumber.  The skinny Lee Oswald would have to have been plastic man, have been able to streeeeech out  and place that 9 pound rifle ON THE FLOOR beneath the pallet of books.   But at least you're right on one important point Mr Alyea....  The hiding place was in fact constructed BEFORE the shooting.

Oh BTW Tom.....Can you explain the boxes that formed the "roof" over the "cavern". You may recall that Mr Boone said that he moved a couple of boxes that formed the roof above the rifle. And he then shined his flashlight down into the dark cavern and he spotted a small portion of the butt of the rifle that was laying on the floor beneath the pallet.  How did those boxes get  placed there as the roof for the hiding place???

The rifle did not touch any of the three overhanging boxes, and there were no boxes touching the rifle.
 

[Jerry Freeman]

DAVID VON PEIN SAID....
 

You make it sound like he was constructing the Pyramids.

                                                     

[Jerry Freeman]

It's circular reasoning at its finest, when you start out with the improbable assertion that Oswald must be innocent and all the officials lied then you are left with cherry picking minor contradictions and making illogical connections with these slim pickings but of course Walt's fabrications are legendary and he goes the extra mile and at least attempts to create a narrative but as can be seen any alternative to the official version is ridiculous.

...any alternative to the official version was ridiculous unacceptable.
 There-- fixed it No charge.

[Bill Brown]

B) Whaley said that his passenger was wearing a BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers.  ( Lee Oswald was wearing a REDDISH BROWN SHIRT with a BUTTON DOWN COLLAR, and dark grey trousers)

Whaley told the FBI that his infamous passenger was wearing a brown shirt, nothing about any jacket.