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Online Michael Capasse

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« Reply #2360 on: March 02, 2025, 07:48:45 PM »
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Bottom line.  There was an election. Trump won.  He is making the decision to stop the funding.  I agree with that decision.  The US has done more than its fair share.  Again, if Ukraine wishes to continue the war and "Europe" wishes to pay for it, they are free to do so.  Trump is not telling them to surrender.  There is no doubt that the presence of NATO nations on Russia's borders was one motivation for the invasion.  That doesn't make it right but the US would have done exactly same thing if Russia and China began to have a military presence in Mexico or Canada on our borders.

The only one that chooses to be at war is Russia.
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« Reply #2361 on: March 02, 2025, 07:57:46 PM »
   Depends what you mean by "effect". There's emotional/morally, and then there is the material. USA carries Europe and has dating back to WW1. Trump has always been an Isolationist. Energy Independent, greatest military in the world, Space Force, and now a Dome Defense. USA can stand alone if need be. Zelenskyy issa con man pocketing Billions/$$. Trump DOGE'd him for an accounting of the $350 Billion the USA has GIVEN him and he could NOT provide an account for it. Trump is a "bottom line" guy. If You can Not provide "receipts for expenditures" = "You're FIRED". This is the current status of Zelenskyy. 
You Russian trolls are so full of sh*t it's sickening. Blaming Zelenskyy for squandering the $183 billion (not $350 comrade) that the US gave him to keep a murderous dictator from wiping his country off the map is reprehensible. You do realize that most of that money was for weaponry that was stockpiled and about to be decommissioned anyway. Small price to pay to wage a war by proxy against a scumbag commie dictator without losing a single troop or firing a single shot. That's a fricken bargain you fool!

Only a Russian troll would defend an orange retarded Nazi pedophile, clearly hellbent on selling out the US to the 4th Reich oligarch dictators of the world to help them carve up the planet for the new world order. Sound familiar? Making excuses for everything Mien Fuhrer Trumputin does tells me everything I need to know about you and your ilk. Otherwise, have a nice day, comrade.

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« Reply #2362 on: March 02, 2025, 08:55:51 PM »
The only one that chooses to be at war is Russia.

And?  Unless you have a magic wand to make that otherwise, Trump has to play with the cards that have been dealt.  Endless war is futile.  Cut a deal, end the war, and wait for Putin to move out of power in a few years.

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« Reply #2363 on: March 02, 2025, 09:02:00 PM »
You Russian trolls are so full of sh*t it's sickening. Blaming Zelenskyy for squandering the $183 billion (not $350 comrade) that the US gave him to keep a murderous dictator from wiping his country off the map is reprehensible. You do realize that most of that money was for weaponry that was stockpiled and about to be decommissioned anyway. Small price to pay to wage a war by proxy against a scumbag commie dictator without losing a single troop or firing a single shot. That's a fricken bargain you fool!

Only a Russian troll would defend an orange retarded Nazi pedophile, clearly hellbent on selling out the US to the 4th Reich oligarch dictators of the world to help them carve up the planet for the new world order. Sound familiar? Making excuses for everything Mien Fuhrer Trumputin does tells me everything I need to know about you and your ilk. Otherwise, have a nice day, comrade.

No one has blamed Zelensky.  You are making up leftist disinformation to promote warmongering.  The US has spent hundreds of billions on this war with no end in sight.  Thousands have died. The question is what is to be done now. The Biden option was to wage an endless war spending more and more US taxpayer billions and killing countless thousands and hoping for divine intervention.   Trump's plan ends the war, allows Russia to occupy some regions of Ukraine that no one has ever heard of, and restores wealth and security to Ukraine in the form of trade deals. peace, and non-US peacekeepers.  Not every wrong is righted but it's a path to ending the war in the best way feasible.   Of course, Ukraine has the option to fight on for as long as it likes with the help of "Europe."  The European leaders, however, are not stupid enough to get themselves involved in these endless regional conflicts as the US has done for almost 100 years. 

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« Reply #2364 on: March 02, 2025, 09:14:34 PM »
And?  Unless you have a magic wand to make that otherwise, Trump has to play with the cards that have been dealt.  Endless war is futile.  Cut a deal, end the war, and wait for Putin to move out of power in a few years.

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« Reply #2365 on: March 02, 2025, 09:17:05 PM »
You are making up leftist disinformation to promote warmongering.

A "former" KGB* officer and admirer of Joseph Stalin by the name of Vladimir Putin is the warmonger here, Smith, and he cherishes you for what you do.

Afterall, sixty-plus years (it began in 1959) of KGB* disinformation, "active measures," as strategic deception counterintelligence operations have been invested in you and your ilk!

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« Reply #2366 on: March 02, 2025, 09:25:13 PM »
A "former" KGB* officer and admirer of Joseph Stalin by the name of Vladimir Putin is the warmonger here, Smith, and he cherishes you for what you do.

Afterall, sixty-plus years (it began in 1959) of KGB* disinformation, "active measures," as strategic deception counterintelligence operations have been invested in you and your ilk!

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That's partially right.  You are learning something.  No one thought that possible.  Putin is a warmonger.  He would continue this war forever regardless of the deaths and destruction.  The question remains.  What is to be done under the circumstances that exist? Biden wanted to fund an endless war.  Trump wants to find a way that ends it.  There is no perfect solution. 

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« Reply #2367 on: March 02, 2025, 10:24:01 PM »
That's partially right.  You are learning something.  No one thought that possible.  Putin is a warmonger.  He would continue this war forever regardless of the deaths and destruction.  The question remains.  What is to be done under the circumstances that exist? Biden wanted to fund an endless war.  Trump wants to find a way that ends it.  There is no perfect solution.

Despite what you say, with adequate support given to Ukraine Putin, can't continue his war "forever."

The Russian economy has begun to tank, Ukraine has destroyed a large part of its navy and oil production facilities, Russia has to import crummy soldiers from North Korea, and Russian mothers and fathers are wondering why they haven't heard from their sons for such a long time.
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