Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
Sean Kneringer

Author Topic: U.S. Politics  (Read 191950 times)

Online Royell Storing

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2072 on: January 23, 2025, 05:14:35 PM »
Advertisement
Regarding whether or not Putin tried to help The Traitorous Orange Person win, why don't you trust the report by Robert Mueller (a Republican) and the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee?

   What does Mueller being a Repub have to do with incompetence? Both parties have plenty of that. And don't forget, Trump for decades was a Dem. Party affiliation has nothing to do with the competency of an individual. That linear mind set died a long time ago. Well other than at CNN, MSNBC, and Calif. All of which are dying a slow death.

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2072 on: January 23, 2025, 05:14:35 PM »


Online Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5378
Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2073 on: January 23, 2025, 06:16:34 PM »
   What does Mueller being a Repub have to do with incompetence? Both parties have plenty of that. And don't forget, Trump for decades was a Dem. Party affiliation has nothing to do with the competency of an individual. That linear mind set died a long time ago. Well other than at CNN, MSNBC, and Calif. All of which are dying a slow death.

Yes, same deal with "republicans" like Liz Cheney.  There are many establishment republicans who hate Trump as much or more than any democrat.  He exposed their lies and incompetence and folks like Cheney, Bolton, and McConnell are Trump haters.  Interestingly, many of Trump's economic policies align more closely with pre-Clinton era democrats who were big on tariffs and protecting American jobs.  Obama ushered in an age of internationalism in which Dems wanted to the US to become a globalist European socialist run economy.  That has been disastrous.   In fairness to Mueller, he was losing his marbles and had no clue what was happening.  Even so the "Mueller" report never concluded that Trump colluded with the Russians.  It's a false premise to begin with.

Online Royell Storing

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2074 on: January 23, 2025, 06:42:39 PM »
Yes, same deal with "republicans" like Liz Cheney.  There are many establishment republicans who hate Trump as much or more than any democrat.  He exposed their lies and incompetence and folks like Cheney, Bolton, and McConnell are Trump haters.  Interestingly, many of Trump's economic policies align more closely with pre-Clinton era democrats who were big on tariffs and protecting American jobs.  Obama ushered in an age of internationalism in which Dems wanted to the US to become a globalist European socialist run economy.  That has been disastrous.   In fairness to Mueller, he was losing his marbles and had no clue what was happening.  Even so the "Mueller" report never concluded that Trump colluded with the Russians.  It's a false premise to begin with.

   Yeah, I agree with you. The Clinton years are beginning to be looked on in a positive light by the Repub's. This is a lot like we saw with the Dem's and Reagan. It took awhile, but the Dem's in general did come around to praising the Reagan Presidency. Another to add to that Liz Chaney list is Mitt Romney. That Carpetbagger needs to hit the road. 

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2074 on: January 23, 2025, 06:42:39 PM »


Online Tom Mahon

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 204
Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2075 on: January 23, 2025, 09:10:59 PM »
What does Mueller being a Repub have to do with incompetence? Both parties have plenty of that. And don't forget, Trump for decades was a Dem. Party affiliation has nothing to do with the competency of an individual. That linear mind set died a long time ago. Well other than at CNN, MSNBC, and Calif. All of which are dying a slow death.

The only "incompetence" of Robert Mueller, a Conservative (by 2001 standards) Republican former Director of the FBI -- which Bureau was duped (under other Directors) by Kremlin-loyal "informant" Aleksei Kulak (FEDORA) for 15 years and by Kremlin-loyal Special Agent Robert Hanssen for 22 years -- was in failing to "follow the money" in the Trump - Russia "collusion" case and in failing to ignore the DOJ's guidelines and go ahead and indict The Traitorous Orange Person S.O.B. known as Donald J. Trump.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 09:11:55 PM by Tom Mahon »

Online Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5378
Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2076 on: January 23, 2025, 11:07:02 PM »
The only "incompetence" of Robert Mueller, a Conservative (by 2001 standards) Republican former Director of the FBI -- which Bureau was duped (under other Directors) by Kremlin-loyal "informant" Aleksei Kulak (FEDORA) for 15 years and by Kremlin-loyal Special Agent Robert Hanssen for 22 years -- was in failing to "follow the money" in the Trump - Russia "collusion" case and in failing to ignore the DOJ's guidelines and go ahead and indict The Traitorous Orange Person S.O.B. known as Donald J. Trump.

Again, in 2016 Mueller was a man with dementia.  He was a shell of his former shelf, and many establishment Republicans hate Trump.  So, just repeating over and over that Mueller was a Republican makes no difference.  Regardless, your entire claim is based on the false premise that the Mueller report found anything of consequence linking Trump to Russia or Russia influencing the 2016 election.  It didn't.  That was a giant hoax. Even "Shifty" Schiff who made an entire career on this has moved on from that lie.

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2076 on: January 23, 2025, 11:07:02 PM »


Online Tom Mahon

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 204
Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2077 on: January 23, 2025, 11:49:12 PM »
Your entire claim is based on the false premise that the Mueller report found anything of consequence linking Trump to Russia or Russia influencing the 2016 election. It didn't.That was a giant hoax.

Although, given the number of factors involved, it's impossible to prove whether or not "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin's SVR (e.g., advanced persistent threat "Cozy Bear"), GRU (e.g., advanced persistent threat "Fancy Bear" and GRU officer Konstantin Kilimnik), and his professional trolls at the St. Petersburg Internet Research Agency, et al., were instrumental in putting The Russian Mafia Mobbed-Up Traitorous Orange Person into the Office of the Presidency on 20 January 2017 (hint: they probably were), you seem to be perfectly fine with their trying to do so (which the Mueller Report and the Senate Intelligence Report did prove) and with their celebrating his great Electoral College "victory" afterwards.

Question: Have you always been a supporter of the mafia known as the KGB*, or only since The Traitorous Orange Person started kissing Putin's you-know-what??

*Today's SVR and FSB
« Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 11:55:38 PM by Tom Mahon »

Online Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5378
Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2078 on: January 24, 2025, 01:27:02 PM »
Although, given the number of factors involved, it's impossible to prove whether or not "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin's SVR (e.g., advanced persistent threat "Cozy Bear"), GRU (e.g., advanced persistent threat "Fancy Bear" and GRU officer Konstantin Kilimnik), and his professional trolls at the St. Petersburg Internet Research Agency, et al., were instrumental in putting The Russian Mafia Mobbed-Up Traitorous Orange Person into the Office of the Presidency on 20 January 2017 (hint: they probably were), you seem to be perfectly fine with their trying to do so (which the Mueller Report and the Senate Intelligence Report did prove) and with their celebrating his great Electoral College "victory" afterwards.

Question: Have you always been a supporter of the mafia known as the KGB*, or only since The Traitorous Orange Person started kissing Putin's you-know-what??

*Today's SVR and FSB

Who is "fine" with it?  I just don't care because the substantive point is that nothing Russia may or may not have done had any impact on Trump or the 2016 election.  The Russians are buffoons.  You seem completely unhinged on the topic of Russia and Trump.  You really think Trump is an agent of Putin?  You realize the "KGB" hasn't existed in decades?   Many countries allegedly celebrated the win of Biden in 2020.  Is that evidence that Biden is a traitor working for those countries?  It's laughable. 

Online Tom Mahon

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 204
Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2079 on: January 24, 2025, 06:46:40 PM »
Do you really think Trump is an agent of Putin?

Yes, unwitting or witting.

Probably the latter.

Quote
Don't you realize the "KGB" hasn't existed in decades? 

That's why I always say "*Today's SVR and FSB"

Maybe you missed that.

Rhetorical question:

When did Anna Chapman and her twelve dwarves move to the U.S. as "illegals"?

You remember Anna Chapman, don't you?

She and her colleagues are just one example of how your beloved SVR / FSB / GRU have continued to wage "KGB-like" ops against us.

D'oh

There are many, many other examples, and no, they don't all necessarily involve "illegals."

BTW, did you know that a CIA counterintelligence analyst by the name of Clare Edward Petty determined in the early '70s, by reading some WW II VENONA decrypts, that George DeMohrenschild was very probably a long-term KGB "illegal"?

 

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #2079 on: January 24, 2025, 06:46:40 PM »