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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #176 on: January 28, 2022, 03:13:38 AM »
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The bag found on the 6th floor actually exists.  It is a real thing.  Not an assumption or speculation.  Your shorter bag is the one that is missing.  It can't be accounted for in any way except your imagination.  The bag found on the 6th floor not only exists.  It also has Oswald's prints on it.

We have documentary proof that two curtain rods existed that were submitted for testing for Mr Oswald's prints 8 days before two curtain rods were taken from the Paine garage. You and your Warren Gullible pals remain unable to account for this circumstance

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #177 on: January 28, 2022, 03:27:06 AM »
The bag found on the 6th floor actually exists.  It is a real thing.  Not an assumption or speculation.  Your shorter bag is the one that is missing.  It can't be accounted for in any way except your imagination.  The bag found on the 6th floor not only exists.  It also has Oswald's prints on it.  It was found next to the SN.  The crime scene.  There is no work-related purpose for it to be there.  No one else who worked in that building ever explained why that bag was there or claimed it or explained its presence there.  There is only one explanation for that bag.  Only one.  You know it.  There is no debate outside nutty Internet forums that this bag contained Oswald's rifle.

Your shorter bag is the one that is missing.  It can't be accounted for in any way except your imagination.

In my imagination it's not accounted for either. The fact that nobody found such a bag, because they were not looking for it, doesn't prove it didn't exist. Nobody knows what Oswald did between 8 AM and 12:30.

The bag found on the 6th floor not only exists.  It also has Oswald's prints on it.

Wow, stop the presses. A bag made from materials common to the TSBD was found inside the TSBD with several prints on it, of which only those of Oswald, an employee of the TSBD, could be identified.  :D

There is no debate outside nutty Internet forums that this bag contained Oswald's rifle.

There's just a few minor problems with that "conclusion"; (1) you can't prove that this is the bag Oswald carried, (2) you can't even prove that bag ever left the TSBD or (3) that it ever contained a rifle.

So, all you've got is hot air and the usual LN assumptions.....

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #178 on: January 28, 2022, 03:30:34 AM »



With respect to the brown paper package that Lee Harvey Oswald was said to have carried into the  Texas School Book Depository  on the morning of President Kennedy's assassination (November 22, 1963), CBS-TV reporter Dan Rather performed a very interesting re-enactment for the CBS viewing audience during the first segment of the four-hour TV special entitled "A CBS News Inquiry: The Warren Report".

Dan Rather shows the TV audience a brown homemade paper package, which Rather tells us contains a dismantled Mannlicher-Carcano rifle just like Lee Oswald's. Mr. Rather confirms the length of the rifle inside his re-created package as 34.8 inches, the exact length of Oswald's disassembled Carcano, which was a rifle found by police on the sixth floor of the Book Depository 52 minutes after JFK's assassination.

It's true that Rather could not put the re-created package under his armpit while it was also cupped in his hand. But it struck me as interesting that only a small portion of the bag (only a very few inches of the top of the bag) was sticking out above Rather's shoulder when he started to walk away from the CBS camera with the package cupped in his hand (the same way that witness Buell Wesley Frazier said Oswald had "cupped" the so-called "curtain rod" package in his hand back in 1963).

Unless someone was paying very close attention (which Frazier testified he wasn't), the few inches of that paper package sticking above the shoulder of the person carrying it could easily have gone unnoticed by a witness.


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #179 on: January 28, 2022, 03:40:40 AM »
With respect to the brown paper package that Lee Harvey Oswald was said to have carried into the  Texas School Book Depository  on the morning of President Kennedy's assassination (November 22, 1963), CBS-TV reporter Dan Rather performed a very interesting re-enactment for the CBS viewing audience during the first segment of the four-hour TV special entitled "A CBS News Inquiry: The Warren Report".

Dan Rather shows the TV audience a brown homemade paper package, which Rather tells us contains a dismantled Mannlicher-Carcano rifle just like Lee Oswald's. Mr. Rather confirms the length of the rifle inside his re-created package as 34.8 inches, the exact length of Oswald's disassembled Carcano, which was a rifle found by police on the sixth floor of the Book Depository 52 minutes after JFK's assassination.

It's true that Rather could not put the re-created package under his armpit while it was also cupped in his hand. But it struck me as interesting that only a small portion of the bag (only a very few inches of the top of the bag) was sticking out above Rather's shoulder when he started to walk away from the CBS camera with the package cupped in his hand (the same way that witness Buell Wesley Frazier said Oswald had "cupped" the so-called "curtain rod" package in his hand back in 1963).

Unless someone was paying very close attention (which Frazier testified he wasn't), the few inches of that paper package sticking above the shoulder of the person carrying it could easily have gone unnoticed by a witness.


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Did Mr Rather show this package lying across the back seat?

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« Reply #180 on: January 28, 2022, 03:49:35 AM »
Did Mr Rather show this package lying across the back seat?

I don’t remember. But if you are interested, the video should be available on YouTube. Check it out and you can see what is described in the review that I quoted.

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #181 on: January 28, 2022, 04:13:51 AM »
Did Mr Rather show this package lying across the back seat?

Who lays a "lunch bag" or even a bag with a few two-foot-long "curtain rods" across the back seat?

Either of those would normally be taken into the front seat. Now a concealed rifle in a paper bag that Oswald didn't want to be seen close up would naturally be placed on the back seat.
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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #182 on: January 28, 2022, 04:20:54 AM »
Perhaps you missed this part of post #35 by DVP in this thread:

Mr. Frazier is also on record as having said the following at the 1986 Oswald Mock Trial in London, England:

VINCENT T. BUGLIOSI -- "Mr. Frazier, is it true that you paid hardly any attention to this bag?"

BUELL WESLEY FRAZIER -- "That is true."

BUGLIOSI -- "So the bag could have been protruding out in front of his body, and you wouldn't have been able to see it, is that correct?"

FRAZIER -- "That is true."

It wouldn't have to protrude out in front at all. Just angled over a bit using his left hand
Oswald was trying to hide the profile of the bag
1) Beside his body as he made a beeline to his ride
2) Out front as he tried to leave Buell behind and make a beeline to get this party started
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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #183 on: January 28, 2022, 01:36:56 PM »
It wouldn't have to protrude out in front at all. Just angled over a bit using his left hand
Oswald was trying to hide the profile of the bag
1) Beside his body as he made a beeline to his ride
2) Out front as he tried to leave Buell behind and make a beeline to get this party started

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« Reply #183 on: January 28, 2022, 01:36:56 PM »