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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #424 on: September 12, 2022, 03:35:48 PM »
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Oh...before you ask, here's photographic evidence both stacks were on pallets.



The red arrows subtly indicate the pallet in question.


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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #425 on: September 12, 2022, 03:36:13 PM »
Jerry posted this image on another thread:



He seems to have misunderstood that Weitzman was on the floor looking through a pallet.
In the graphic the yellow/orange arrows are Jerry's and are part of the original graphic to which I have made some additions.
Ignore the yellow/orange arrows.

The stack of boxes marked with a green "A" in each pic rests on a pallet [it is the same stack seen from different angles]
To the bottom picture I have added a green arrow to give an indication of Weitzman's LoS as he was on the floor looking through the pallet.
It demonstrates that Weitzman could have seen the barrel portion of the rifle from his viewpoint.



The middle photo is purportedly the view from the top of the stairs looking south......The row of boxes ran east /west that would have had the rifle on the south side of those boxes....  The official tale says that Lee Harrrrrrvey Ossssswald ( Boooooo Hissss) dashed to the stairs from the east side, (Left in the photo)  and with his ex-ray vision he spotted the gap in the boxes on the back side of that row of boxes, then with his superman grip he held the nine pound rifle in his left hand , by the butt and jammed it in that gap between the boxes.

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #426 on: September 12, 2022, 03:40:27 PM »
Oh...before you ask, here's photographic evidence both stacks were on pallets.



The red arrows subtly indicate the pallet in question.

The red arrows point to a pallet that was on the west side of the pallet  (B) that Seymour Weitzman shined his flashlight beneath and spotted the rifle on the floor.... 
« Last Edit: September 12, 2022, 03:44:44 PM by Walt Cakebread »

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #427 on: September 12, 2022, 03:50:01 PM »
Oh...before you ask, here's photographic evidence both stacks were on pallets.



The red arrows subtly indicate the pallet in question.




This photo beautifully illustrates the impossibility of Weitzman seeing the rifle if it had been sandwiched between the boxes on the left....   Weitzman said that he shined his flashlight beneath the pallet "B" and saw the rifle on the floor.

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #428 on: September 12, 2022, 04:36:36 PM »


The middle photo is purportedly the view from the top of the stairs looking south......The row of boxes ran east /west that would have had the rifle on the south side of those boxes....  The official tale says that Lee Harrrrrrvey Ossssswald ( Boooooo Hissss) dashed to the stairs from the east side, (Left in the photo)  and with his ex-ray vision he spotted the gap in the boxes on the back side of that row of boxes, then with his superman grip he held the nine pound rifle in his left hand , by the butt and jammed it in that gap between the boxes.

But, when taken at face value, the evidence regarding who was on the 6th floor just before, during and after the shooting excludes Oswald as the shooter.
So Oswald didn't dash across the 6th floor.
He did not stash the MC away
He did not dash downstairs to his rendezvous with Baker and Truly
In this scenario, the MC is no longer required as the murder weapon, it is nothing more than a prop to frame Oswald.
Who was probably in the Domino Room while all this was going down.

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #429 on: September 12, 2022, 04:38:29 PM »



This photo beautifully illustrates the impossibility of Weitzman seeing the rifle if it had been sandwiched between the boxes on the left....   Weitzman said that he shined his flashlight beneath the pallet "B" and saw the rifle on the floor.

No it doesn't Walt.
It shows that it was perfectly possible to see the barrel of the rifle while looking through the pallet.

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #430 on: September 12, 2022, 05:13:57 PM »
No it doesn't Walt.
It shows that it was perfectly possible to see the barrel of the rifle while looking through the pallet.



Please explain how Seymour Weitzman could have seen the rifle ( green arrow) when he was east of the pallet in the photo ( above "A" in the photo)  Wouldn't the boxes sitting on the floor to the left (north) of the "B" stack obstructed his view ?

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« Reply #431 on: September 12, 2022, 05:42:23 PM »


Please explain how Seymour Weitzman could have seen the rifle ( green arrow) when he was east of the pallet in the photo ( above "A" in the photo)  Wouldn't the boxes sitting on the floor to the left (north) of the "B" stack obstructed his view ?

No

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« Reply #431 on: September 12, 2022, 05:42:23 PM »