A Rock Solid Alibi.....

[Walt Cakebread]

Thank you for providing the photos that lead you to believe the two parallel lines were made by the bayonet lug.

I'd suggest that you think about that idea....  Because is not plausible.   We need the palm print posted again so we can discuss the plausibility of your idea.

As I recall detective Day said that he saw some of the print on the metal barrel sticking out from beneath the wooden foregrip, so he decided to dismantle the rifle to expose the entire print.   

Do I have that right?

 Charles Collins posted this last year.....
I don't know why I missed this post by Charles Collins

I ran across this photo which shows more clearly that the two edges which contact the underside of the barrel are rough. It appears to me that there are teeth intentionally made into the edges. These teeth are slanted such that they would grip the underside of the barrel when the lug is pushed back towards the bolt, and would release very easily when it is pushed toward the muzzle end of the barrel. Also, take another look at the two lines on the lift done by Day. They look to me like impressions left on the underside of the barrel by similar teeth could have formed them. (Where's a forensic dentist when we need one?   )

This is NOT a baynet lug for a model 91/38 carcano ...... The 91/38 has two holes for the front barrel band and this lug has only one.   This lug is similar but it is not the correct bayonet lug.

[Walt Cakebread]

The bayonet lug had one bolt hole and the heavy metal barrel band had two.


Just to show you I ain't pulling your leg, here's the Oswald rifle:


Finally, in the graphic below, the top inset shows how everything fitted together. Two bolts through the heavy metal barrel band and just one through the bayonet lug. It didn't need two bolts because the lug was additionally secured through friction to the barrel itself.



The folded bayonet.

Jerry the slotted part of the bayonet lug measures nearly  one inch  ( 60/64")

So you can use that as a scale and measure the length of the bayonet lug on CE 139  (C2766 ) and compare it to the photo that Charles posted ( the one hole lug)   Are they the same length ? 

[Jerry Freeman]

Ok, my mistake.... I've never removed the bayonet lug and I was under the impression that it require a special tool. 

Nah...you should be able to do it by just using a dime 

[Jerry Freeman]

There's no evidence that somebody else shot Kennedy.

It's easier to sucker people than to convince them that they've been suckered

[Walt Cakebread]

Don't suppose you would put down some of the weird proportions in the lug photo to old-school perspective and wide lens distortion?

I'm not sure what you're asking....but I'll accept that I was wrong in assuming that all model 91/38 carcanos had two holes in the bayonet lug for the screws to pass through.  My carcanos have two holes but apparently some have only one hole.  Possible the early version had just one hole and the engineers decided that two holes would be better because the two holes clamp the bayonet lug tighter to the stock.

Now then....   Do you believe that the two parallel lines in the so called  palm print photo are 5/16th  inches apart and they were caused by the bayonet ?

[Walt Cakebread]

I'm lost. Are you saying your bayonet lug looks like this:



Sorry, but one has to guess at what you mean because you won't post any pictures.



If the lifting tape is 2" wide, the linear lines are 5/16" apart, the same width as the bayonet lug. (From this pagee )

The diameter of the barrel at that point is.....    .652"   (21/32")  Pi X .652 =  2.04 "  So the circumference is 2".

So you're saying that Day used 2 inch wide tape and wrapped it completely around the barrel  even though the print covered only a fraction of  2 inches.     And then you place the tape that was on a cylindrical surface on a flat surface and think that you can present that BS as factual information.

Only a moron would believe that detective  Day wrapped the circumference of the barrel with 2" wide tape when the print was on about 1/2 inch of the surface.

[Walt Cakebread]

I'm lost. Are you saying your bayonet lug looks like this:



Sorry, but one has to guess at what you mean because you won't post any pictures.



If the lifting tape is 2" wide, the linear lines are 5/16" apart, the same width as the bayonet lug. (From this pagee )

I'm lost. Are you saying your bayonet lug looks like this:



No, not exactly.... The holes are too far apart .... On my carcano they are 1 1/2 inches apart.

[Walt Cakebread]

And, as we have known since 2019, Mr Hosty is lying in his book about what Mr Oswald actually said.

We have it in Mr Hosty's own handwriting:



Mr Oswald did not claim to have been eating his lunch in the domino room at the time of the P. Parade. He did, however, claim to have been doing so when he saw Messrs Jarman & Norman passing through shortly before the P. Parade.

I've never given much thought to What Lee told Fritz regarding his movements after the encounter with Baker and Truly in the 2nd floor lunchroom....   But the official tale says that Lee walked through the office area with a Coca Cola in his hand after the encounter.



In his reply to Fritz apparently Lee never specified the route that he took when he returned to the Domino Room to finish his lunch at about 12:33.  I now doubt that Lee walked through the office area after leaving the 2nd floor lunchroom.    If he had walked across the office area and used the front stairs to return to the Domino room he would have encountered many of the employees who were returning to the building after the shooting.  BUT NOBODY reported seeing Lee Oswald....  AND Lee certainly would have seen the mayhem on the street outside of the TSBD so he would have known that there was no P. Parade to watch.....


Thus, He probably returned to the Domino Room by way of the stairs in the NW corner of the building....