Poll claims Oswald seen as ......

[John Iacoletti]

Why not answer the simple question posed and spare us the endless commentary?  You have falsely claimed as a fact that Oswald could not use the stairs to reach the lunchroom unnoticed from the 6th floor.

Seeing "Richard" whining about falsely claiming things as facts has got the be the funniest thing I've seen in a long long time.

[John Iacoletti]

When people don't have very good evidence for their opinions, all they can do is complain about other people's "standard of proof".

[Martin Weidmann]

Why not answer the simple question posed and spare us the endless commentary?  You have falsely claimed as a fact that Oswald could not use the stairs to reach the lunchroom unnoticed from the 6th floor.  As that is the only apparent way for Oswald to have reached the lunchroom from the 6th floor, how does your conclusion not preclude Oswald from being the assassin?  Yet you refuse, for some inexplicable reason, to accept the implications of your own conclusion by confirming that it is your position that Oswald was innocent and framed as part of a conspiracy. 

So explain to us how you leave open any possibility of Oswald being on the 6th floor when he couldn't use the stairs or elevator to descend to the lunchroom where he was encountered by Baker.  That is impossible.  The only inference that can be made from your conclusion is that Oswald was not on the 6th floor.  Thus, he could not be the assassin, and someone framed him for this crime.  There is no way to reconcile your conclusion that Oswald couldn't use the stairs to descend to the lunchroom to account for his presence there after the assassination with Oswald still being the potential assassin on the 6th floor.  Rather, this highlights your Inspector Clouseau-like approach to this case.

You have falsely claimed as a fact that Oswald could not use the stairs to reach the lunchroom unnoticed from the 6th floor.

There's nothing false about it, nor have I ever claimed any of it as a fact. I have given you countless opportunities to prove that it is false and you have completely failed to do so. That speaks for itself.

[Walt Cakebread]

What major event, without a complete audio and visual record, can't be undermined with cheap innuendo and an impossible standard of proof? It's like there was no moon landing because there wasn't an audience of witnesses already on the moon to witness it. Or somebody else wrote the Shakespeare works.

It is a fact that Lee Oswald was in the 1st Floor lunchroom at 12:27.  Therefore, it's highly unlikely ( Impossible) that he could have been on the sixth floor and shooting that carcano out of the window.   

I'm sorry that this fact renders your theories impossible.....   

[Martin Weidmann]

Could you cite where anyone said they went by the domino room at 12:27? Jarman, I think, said something like "It was 12:25 or 12:28". Is that your source?

The people recording Oswald's claims said he was in the domino room when either two man walked through, or the two men sat down and had lunch there. Jarman and Norman, and I believe Oswald would have known this, would have to go through the domino room to get to where they routinely stored their lunches. Neither men saw Oswald while eating their lunch, so likely Oswald had no idea that the two men had already eaten.

When Jarman and Norman showed up under Oswald's open window on the sixth floor, Oswald wrongly assumed they had just come from the domino room having just gotten and eaten their lunches. Just another lie among the dozens of lies Oswald told officials.

The people recording Oswald's claims said

That's the most important part. Those people were not familiar with the lay out of the TSBD and may very well have misinterpreted or misremembered what Oswald actually said.

When Jarman and Norman showed up under Oswald's open window on the sixth floor, Oswald wrongly assumed they had just come from the domino room having just gotten and eaten their lunches. Just another lie among the dozens of lies Oswald told officials.

Cool story and a nice bit of speculation for which there isn't a shred of evidence.

[Walt Cakebread]

Could you cite where anyone said they went by the domino room at 12:27? Jarman, I think, said something like "It was 12:25 or 12:28". Is that your source?

The people recording Oswald's claims said he was in the domino room when either two man walked through, or the two men sat down and had lunch there. Jarman and Norman, and I believe Oswald would have known this, would have to go through the domino room to get to where they routinely stored their lunches. Neither men saw Oswald while eating their lunch, so likely Oswald had no idea that the two men had already eaten.

When Jarman and Norman showed up under Oswald's open window on the sixth floor, Oswald wrongly assumed they had just come from the domino room having just gotten and eaten their lunches. Just another lie among the dozens of lies Oswald told officials.

I think at this point,  I should heed my own advice, and stop arguing with an ignoramus.......But ....

Jarman, I think, said something like "It was 12:25 or 12:28". Is that your source?

Question;.... Does 12:27 fall between 12:25 - 12:28 ?  I can't give you the precise time that Lee Oswald saw Jarman and Norman walk by the 1st floor lunchroom because they never gave an exact time.   But we don't need a precise time...  Lee said that he saw them walk by and Jarman said that they arrived on the 5th floor at 12:28..... It doesn't require a degree in advanced mathematics to understand that Lee couldn't have been on the 6th floor and firing that carcano at 12:30.

The people recording Oswald's claims said he was in the domino room when either two man walked through, or the two men sat down and had lunch there. Jarman and Norman, and I believe Oswald would have known this, would have to go through the domino room to get to where they routinely stored their lunches. Neither men saw Oswald while eating their lunch, so likely Oswald had no idea that the two men had already eaten.

Perhaps you should review the story..... There were only three men at the interrogation at 3:15 ...They were Fritz, Hosty, and Bookhout....   Thomas Kelly's first interrogation of Lee Oswald occurred on Sunday morning just prior to the lynching of Lee Oswald.  So your citing of Kelly is irrelevant   Since Lee told Fritz, Hosty, and 
Bookhout during that initial interrogation that he was in the first floor lunchroom when Junior and Shorty walked by.  I can't understand why you want to cite a person who wasn't even there. Citing Thomas Kelly merely reveals your desperation.

[Walt Cakebread]

Could you cite where anyone said they went by the domino room at 12:27? Jarman, I think, said something like "It was 12:25 or 12:28". Is that your source?

The people recording Oswald's claims said he was in the domino room when either two man walked through, or the two men sat down and had lunch there. Jarman and Norman, and I believe Oswald would have known this, would have to go through the domino room to get to where they routinely stored their lunches. Neither men saw Oswald while eating their lunch, so likely Oswald had no idea that the two men had already eaten.

When Jarman and Norman showed up under Oswald's open window on the sixth floor, Oswald wrongly assumed they had just come from the domino room having just gotten and eaten their lunches. Just another lie among the dozens of lies Oswald told officials.

Jarman and Norman, and I believe Oswald would have known this, would have to go through the domino room to get to where they routinely stored their lunches. Neither men saw Oswald while eating their lunch,

Are you saying that Jarman and Norman walked through the lunchroom to get their lunch sacks while Lee was eating his lunch?   And they sat down and ate lunch with Lee Oswald....    I don't know that they would have been allowed to sit and eat with Lee because segregation was still strongly enforced in Dallas, and the TSBD.

They might have put their jobs in jeopardy ....... Roy Truly most certainly would not have allowed them to eat with Lee Oswald.

[Walt Cakebread]

Wow! I thought it worth while to preserve the post above before it could be erased.

Erased??....  Are you aware that Roy Truly referred to the Negro employees as his n---ers.