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[John Iacoletti]

No, your statement is misleading and a distortion of the truth. This is typical of the nonsense disseminated by the conspiracy crowd. You fail to include the fact that LHO was pulling the revolver. Distortion by omission is not “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth”. It is intentional distortion and sadly too many people who are not familiar with the facts of the case are mislead because of the distortion. You should be ashamed.

This is doublespeak. The distortion is claiming that Oswald did something that he did not do. People interested in the truth describe events and evidence accurately instead of doubling down when they’re wrong, whining about “what is important and meaningful”, and gaslighting.

[John Iacoletti]

Interesting, that Dale Myers also states that Bob Carroll is carrying Oswald’s revolver…

Myers is infamous for stating assumptions as facts.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

It turns out that Jim MacCammon is in the photograph that I posted in the original (first) post of this thread:




Here’s the notes of a detail of that photo from page 333 of “With Malice” by Dale Myers:

Oswald is led toward an unmarked Dallas police car in front of the Texas Theater. Photographed by Stuart L. Reed at about 1:52 p.m., November 22, 1963. Left to right: Photographer Jim MacCammon (1) lowering camera, Detective Bob Carroll (2) carrying Oswald’s revolver, Officer C.T. Walker (3), Oswald (4) [face covered], Detective Paul L. Bentley (5), Sergeant Gerald L. Hill (6), and Dallas Morning News reporter Jim Ewell (7).


Interesting, that Dale Myers also states that Bob Carroll is carrying Oswald’s revolver…

MacCammon was, from my search, a freelance photographer who did work for Life magazine. One conspiracy article says he left Dallas in 1970 and was never heard from again.

As to Oswald: a revolver was in his waist/pants and it was seen by multiple people in his right hand during the fight/struggle. He pulled it out. Period. Oswald sees the police searching people (he wasn't the first). So when McDonald asks him to stand up he doesn't admit to carrying a revolver? Is that what an innocent man does?

All of these attempts to defend the man are by the same crowd who never parse claims made by the conspiracists and is just more hand waving to divert focus on what matters. Ruth and Michael were recently accused (again!) in a "documentary" of being CIA agents who framed Oswald; the "skeptics" didn't challenge those claims. McDonald is first quoted approvingly and then later called a dirty cop. The police were looking for a killer who fled the scene of his crime; the 4th amendment protections don't apply in such exigent circumstances. They didn't need a search warrant for crissakes.

[Charles Collins]

Oswald was unstoppable on Friday and there was nothing anyone could do about it.

Three heroes that should be hailed more often are:

J.D. Tippit

Johnny Brewer

M.N. McDonald

[John Iacoletti]

and it was seen by multiple people in his right hand during the fight/struggle.

Cite these “multiple people”.

Oswald sees the police searching people (he wasn't the first).

All illegal searches without probable cause.

So when McDonald asks him to stand up he doesn't admit to carrying a revolver? Is that what an innocent man does?

Is that supposed to be evidence of murder?

Ruth and Michael were recently accused (again!) in a "documentary" of being CIA agents who framed Oswald; the "skeptics" didn't challenge those claims.

If you’re talking about the Max Good documentary, they weren’t “accused” of anything.

McDonald is first quoted approvingly and then later called a dirty cop.

All of these attempts to defend police misconduct are made by people who ignore what the cop actually said and make up their own version.

The police were looking for a killer who fled the scene of his crime; the 4th amendment protections don't apply in such exigent circumstances. They didn't need a search warrant for crissakes.

  The 4th amendment always applies, and they needed probable cause.

[Charles Collins]

MacCammon was, from my search, a freelance photographer who did work for Life magazine. One conspiracy article says he left Dallas in 1970 and was never heard from again.

As to Oswald: a revolver was in his waist/pants and it was seen by multiple people in his right hand during the fight/struggle. He pulled it out. Period. Oswald sees the police searching people (he wasn't the first). So when McDonald asks him to stand up he doesn't admit to carrying a revolver? Is that what an innocent man does?

All of these attempts to defend the man are by the same crowd who never parse claims made by the conspiracists and is just more hand waving to divert focus on what matters. Ruth and Michael were recently accused (again!) in a "documentary" of being CIA agents who framed Oswald; the "skeptics" didn't challenge those claims. McDonald is first quoted approvingly and then later called a dirty cop. The police were looking for a killer who fled the scene of his crime; the 4th amendment protections don't apply in such exigent circumstances. They didn't need a search warrant for crissakes.

MacCammon was, from my search, a freelance photographer who did work for Life magazine. One conspiracy article says he left Dallas in 1970 and was never heard from again.

Thanks, according to Gerald Hill’s testimony, that photo was taken about the same time that they were putting the cuffs on LHO. So, I am wondering how long MacCammon was in the theater before he took that photo. And if he ever said anything about what he witnessed.



As to Oswald: a revolver was in his waist/pants and it was seen by multiple people in his right hand during the fight/struggle. He pulled it out. Period. Oswald sees the police searching people (he wasn't the first). So when McDonald asks him to stand up he doesn't admit to carrying a revolver? Is that what an innocent man does?


All of these attempts to defend the man are by the same crowd who never parse claims made by the conspiracists and is just more hand waving to divert focus on what matters.

Exactly.

[Charles Collins]

This information (from “With Malice” by Dale Myers) regarding MacCammon’s photos is intriguing:



James Newton “Jim” MacCammon — freelance photographer, took five 35mm color slides of the arrest of Oswald at the Texas Theater. Two of the five slides had insufficient exposures. The three remaining slides became Warren Commission exhibits. Died on December 3, 2006, at the age of 74.



I wonder what the two insufficient exposures would have shown if they had been exposed better. Due to (apparently) insufficient light, it seems reasonable that they were probably taken inside the theater. Hmmm…

[Charles Collins]

This is doublespeak. The distortion is claiming that Oswald did something that he did not do. People interested in the truth describe events and evidence accurately instead of doubling down when they’re wrong, whining about “what is important and meaningful”, and gaslighting.

Distortion by omission is most definitely distortion. Your omission of the evidence that LHO was drawing the revolver is most definitely distortion. The result is an obvious intentional attempt to imply that LHO didn’t do anything. You are being dishonest and should be ashamed.