Succession

[Walt Cakebread]

I am in the process of reading chapter four for the first time. So far, the only time that LBJ asked for information about the oath of office was on Air Force One, immediately after the assassination. There were a lot of people involved in this, not just LBJ and RFK.

I believe you'll find that William Manchester was a brilliant and clever author.....   He often presents the truth about the assassination, but then he cleverly conceals  the truth in a proposing a counter theory.   ( He would never have gotten the book published if he hadn't )

[Charles Collins]

The catastrophe had struck him harder than any other man in Dallas. If he was mesmerized, if some of his actions were incomprehensible, the nature of that unprecedented shock has to be borne in mind constantly, and to recapture its impact on him the reel of events must be wound back to 12:36 P.M.,

William Manchester apparently didn't see photos of LBJ on board AF1 at about 1:30  ..... LBJ was most certainly not upset by the murder of JFK ....  he was photographed winking at Congressman Thomas and smiling at his 
loyal band of folowers.

12:36 P.M. is when LBJ entered Parkland Hospital. Manchester is mainly referring to LBJ’s actions (and lack of actions) while at the hospital. The so called “wink” was supposedly at LBJ, not by LBJ.

[Richard Smith]

Clearly you aren't smart enough to understand what Charles Collins wrote in the opening post of the thread....

Enlighten me by quoting your source instead of playing a thousand questions.  I didn't see anything in the OP to support what you have suggested (i.e. that LBJ consulted with RFK prior to the assassination on succession in the death of a president).  To the contrary it contains this quote:  "It is improbable that Johnson had considered these complex issues before a blaze of gunfire confronted him with them."

[Charles Collins]

LBJ wanted to take the oath of office in Dallas (even delaying their flight back to Washington DC for it)

Keep reading and you'll find that  John Mc Cormac was hurrying back from lunch after learning of the death of JFK and Mc Cormac assumed that he had become the acting President and needed to return to the House to be sworn in.   LBJ heard that Mc Cormac was about to be sworn in and he nearly soiled his skivvies..     THAT"S why he insisted that a Federal Judge be brought to AF1 immediately  to swear him in.

I have already read this account and you (as usual) have it all wrong. I am assuming this is the passage you are referring to:


For Walton, Moynihan, Horsky, and Duke, mourning thus began early; for John W. McCormack the confirmation was a private anticlimax. The Speaker had still been in the House restaurant when two reporters came to his table and said that Kennedy had been shot. Other reporters and Congressmen then began to dart up with bits and pieces of information. The appearance of priests convinced McCormack that the President had succumbed. Then, in the next minute, he was told that the Vice President had been shot and, in the minute after that, that Secret Service agents were on their way to the Hill to protect him. Although the first report was inaccurate, the second was true; under the succession act of July 18, 1947, inspired by Harry Truman’s affection for Sam Rayburn, the Speaker (rather than the Secretary of State, as in the past) was second in line of succession, and if both Kennedy and Johnson had been murdered, Rayburn’s aged successor was now President of the United States. At 2:18 P.M. in Washington the possibility seemed very real. It struck McCormack, he later recalled, with “a terrific impact.” He rose unsteadily from his chair and immediately suffered a severe attack of vertigo. Linen, waiters, tableware swam before his eyes; he thought he was going to lose consciousness and tumble to the floor. Passing a palsied hand over his eyes, he sank back to his seat, and he was still there, trembling, when a Congressman called over that Johnson was unharmed.


McCormack had been told that LBJ had also been shot (see the part that I underlined). So your idea has no merit.

[Charles Collins]

I believe you'll find that William Manchester was a brilliant and clever author.....   He often presents the truth about the assassination, but then he cleverly conceals  the truth in a proposing a counter theory.   ( He would never have gotten the book published if he hadn't )

 

[Walt Cakebread]

I have already read this account and you (as usual) have it all wrong. I am assuming this is the passage you are referring to:


For Walton, Moynihan, Horsky, and Duke, mourning thus began early; for John W. McCormack the confirmation was a private anticlimax. The Speaker had still been in the House restaurant when two reporters came to his table and said that Kennedy had been shot. Other reporters and Congressmen then began to dart up with bits and pieces of information. The appearance of priests convinced McCormack that the President had succumbed. Then, in the next minute, he was told that the Vice President had been shot and, in the minute after that, that Secret Service agents were on their way to the Hill to protect him. Although the first report was inaccurate, the second was true; under the succession act of July 18, 1947, inspired by Harry Truman’s affection for Sam Rayburn, the Speaker (rather than the Secretary of State, as in the past) was second in line of succession, and if both Kennedy and Johnson had been murdered, Rayburn’s aged successor was now President of the United States. At 2:18 P.M. in Washington the possibility seemed very real. It struck McCormack, he later recalled, with “a terrific impact.” He rose unsteadily from his chair and immediately suffered a severe attack of vertigo. Linen, waiters, tableware swam before his eyes; he thought he was going to lose consciousness and tumble to the floor. Passing a palsied hand over his eyes, he sank back to his seat, and he was still there, trembling, when a Congressman called over that Johnson was unharmed.


McCormack had been told that LBJ had also been shot (see the part that I underlined). So your idea has no merit.

Perhaps I read. in another book that LBJ thought that Mc Cormack was planning to be sworn in, and that had him soiling his skivvies..... But I thought it was in The Death Of A President....

I'll have to admit that it was Manchester's book that opened the door to the case for me....I hadn't read the book which had only been published about a year earlier, when my brother and I got into a discussion about the coup d' etat.   I knew very little about the murder but I felt that we had been handed a dog turd ( the WR) presented as a candy bar, by LBJ's "Special Blue Ribbon Committee"  but my brother told me to read Manchester's TDOAP And so I did.....  And that opened the door.   I wasn't at all convinced by Manchester's book but I'll have to admit the man presented many facts ....... 

[Charles Collins]

Perhaps I read. in another book that LBJ thought that Mc Cormack was planning to be sworn in, and that had him soiling his skivvies..... But I thought it was in The Death Of A President....

Probably another book. But if I encounter anything like that I will let you know.

[John Iacoletti]

Enlighten me by quoting your source instead of playing a thousand questions.  I didn't see anything in the OP to support what you have suggested

Meanwhile, six months later, we're still waiting on a single iota of evidence for "Richard's" claim that Oswald was on the sixth floor at 12:30 and went down the northwest staircases in 75 seconds without being seen or heard by at least 12 people along the way.

A. Single. Iota.