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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Obvious Facts that Refute the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2023, 10:24:43 PM »
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But you'd definitely hear it.

An elephant? I agree.

LHO slithering? Probably not…

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Re: Obvious Facts that Refute the Lone-Gunman Theory
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Obvious Facts that Refute the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2023, 02:23:45 PM »
It is odd that the contrarians think the witnesses here can prove something with their recollection and memory of movements down to the second but otherwise reject documents, prints, and photos and serial numbers that link Oswald to the rifle.   Keep in mind that these contrarians are not conspiracy theorists or have reached any conclusion about the case.  They just reject all evidence against Oswald - no matter how well documented but entertain every straw that lends itself to his innocence.  Just like any neutral party would do.  LOL.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2023, 02:29:47 PM by Richard Smith »

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Re: Obvious Facts that Refute the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2023, 06:41:56 PM »
Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir. An elephant could walk by there, and you could not see him.

Yet somehow Williams saw Marrion Baker come up.

Also Dorothy Garner:  "I remember the stairs were very noisy".

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Re: Obvious Facts that Refute the Lone-Gunman Theory
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Re: Obvious Facts that Refute the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2023, 06:42:53 PM »
"documents, prints, and photos and serial numbers that link Oswald to the rifle". LOL.
"no matter how well documented". LOL.
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Obvious Facts that Refute the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2023, 12:44:38 AM »
Yet somehow Williams saw Marrion Baker come up.

Also Dorothy Garner:  "I remember the stairs were very noisy".


I believe that he said he only saw the top of Baker’s motorcycle helmet. LHO was only 5’-9”. How tall was
Baker with his helmet on?


Some people can walk quietly, hunters walking quietly while hunting is one example. LHO learned, at an early age, to quietly sneak out of his aunt’s house at night while everyone was asleep.

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« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2023, 12:44:38 AM »


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Re: Obvious Facts that Refute the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2023, 01:10:39 AM »

I believe that he said he only saw the top of Baker’s motorcycle helmet. LHO was only 5’-9”. How tall was
Baker with his helmet on?


Some people can walk quietly, hunters walking quietly while hunting is one example. LHO learned, at an early age, to quietly sneak out of his aunt’s house at night while everyone was asleep.
Roy Lewis, one of the order fillers for the TSBD. From "No More Silence": "

"We did have quite a bit of fun on the job racing up and down the elevators tor the floors filling orders. Sometimes if you were on one of the floors by yourself somebody would sneak up and you'd never know they were there. They might go up on the floor above you where you'd hear the elevator stop and you'd assume they were there. But they could walk down the stairway and a lot of time they'd be on you before you'd know it."

From this account it seems that if someone wanted to be quiet on the stairs/steps and not be heard he could pull it off.

« Last Edit: January 16, 2023, 01:21:58 AM by Steve M. Galbraith »

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Re: Obvious Facts that Refute the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2023, 04:19:19 AM »
They had moved to the west wall by then.

They moved to the west wall right after the president’s car passed and they saw people running.

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Maybe she was referring to two or more people on the stairs at a time who didn't care if they were heard. So unlike Oswald.

You don’t even know Oswald was there, much less how much noise he would have made.

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Re: Obvious Facts that Refute the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2023, 04:20:56 AM »
From this account it seems that if someone wanted to be quiet on the stairs/steps and not be heard he could pull it off.

In 75 seconds after the first shot?

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« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2023, 04:20:56 AM »