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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #128 on: January 29, 2023, 12:24:09 AM »
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As for how far from the window Rowland's gunman was standing, Rowland said this in his testimony, which is closer than what he originally said in his affidavit.

Mr. SPECTER - And what is your best recollection as to how close to the window he was standing?
Mr. ROWLAND - He wasn't next to the window, but he wasn't very far back. I would say 3 to 5 feet back from the window.

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #129 on: January 29, 2023, 02:05:37 AM »
I believe the shows the cart that BRW claimed to have been sitting on (though several deputies noticed his chicken bones and lunch sack on and near boxes by the SE window).  It looks to me like it is right next to the window.  Which makes sense if he had been planning to watch the motorcade while he ate lunch.






After taking another look, I think I agree that the cart was next to the window. I believe that I was mistaken about it being between stacks of boxes that form the third aisle. There is another view of the cart and bottle taken looking essentially west that fooled me. Thanks for helping. If we are correct, I think the cart shows up in the photo we were discussing earlier. I have circled it in the one below:




However, the boxes with the Xs, that I indicated earlier would be between a sitting BRW and a man with a rifle standing back from the window, would still be between them. 3 to 5 feet back from the window or further is enough.

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« Reply #130 on: January 29, 2023, 01:27:57 PM »
However, the boxes with the Xs, that I indicated earlier would be between a sitting BRW and a man with a rifle standing back from the window, would still be between them. 3 to 5 feet back from the window or further is enough.

Lol, an earnest analysis founded on a wildly silly double premise:
-------------a bald 'elderly Negro' in a bright plaid shirt hanging out at the SN window = 18-year-old Mr. Bonnie Ray Williams in a dull green shirt sitting on a cart
-------------a man in a very light-colored open-necked garment = Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald.

Most entertaining! 

What's next, one wonders? A painstaking exploration into whether Santa Claus's hat is best classed as vermilion or as scarlet?  :D

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« Reply #131 on: January 29, 2023, 01:44:08 PM »
From FBI interview report on Mrs. Lillian Mooneyham, 1/8/64:

Mrs. MOONEYHAM estimated that it was about 4 to 5 minutes following the shots fired by the assassin that she looked up towards the sixth floor of the TSBD and observed the figure of a man standing in a sixth floor window behind some cardboard boxes. This man appeared to Mrs. MOONEYHAM to be looking out of the window, however, the man was not close up to the window but was standing slightly back from it, so that Mrs. MOONEYHAM could not make out his features. She stated that she could give no description of this individual except to say that she is sure it was a man she observed, because the figure had on trousers. She could not recall the color of the trousers.

Who was this man?

It may well have been Mr. Jack Dougherty. From his first-day affidavit:



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« Reply #132 on: January 29, 2023, 05:24:34 PM »
However, the boxes with the Xs, that I indicated earlier would be between a sitting BRW and a man with a rifle standing back from the window, would still be between them. 3 to 5 feet back from the window or further is enough.

I disagree. I think those boxes are at least a foot deep.

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« Reply #133 on: January 29, 2023, 05:36:54 PM »
I disagree. I think those boxes are at least a foot deep.


What do you mean by that?

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« Reply #134 on: January 29, 2023, 05:45:35 PM »
Draw a line from the two-wheel cart to where the line of sight becomes obscured by the tall stack you’ve marked with Xs. In front of that line to the window there are the three short rows of boxes at least a foot deep each (where you see the soda bottle in the foreground), and the “aisle” next to the window, which would be at least 2 feet deep, or a little more.
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« Reply #135 on: January 29, 2023, 05:55:57 PM »
Draw a line from the two-wheel cart to where the line of sight becomes obscured by the tall stack you’ve marked with Xs. In front of that line to the window there are the three short rows of boxes at least a foot deep each (where you see the soda bottle in the foreground), and the “aisle” next to the window, which would be at least 2 feet deep, or a little more.


I estimate the south “aisle” to be about 24” wide and the tall stack to be about 35” from the south wall. It seems to me we are both in the same ballpark. Do you agree?

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« Reply #135 on: January 29, 2023, 05:55:57 PM »