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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2023, 02:10:05 PM »
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More interestingly, if Oswald acted alone and didn't have a radio with him, how would he had known that JFK's motorcade was running a few minutes behind schedule?


Why would that matter?

If he was hiding quietly and out of sight while in the sniper’s nest and BRW was eating his lunch in the third aisle, he still could have taken his shots before anyone could stop him. And if he was lurking quietly and out of sight on the west end of the floor, he could have taken shots from the open windows on that end of the building before anyone could have stopped him. As it appears to me, the second scenario seems likely. But BRW left the sixth floor before the motorcade arrived, so he was able to move to the sniper’s nest as I believe he originally planned.
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« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2023, 02:57:34 PM »

Why would that matter?

If he was hiding quietly and out of sight while in the sniper’s nest and BRW was eating his lunch in the third aisle, he still could have taken his shots before anyone could stop him. And if he was lurking quietly and out of sight on the west end of the floor, he could have taken shots from the open windows on that end of the building before anyone could have stopped him. As it appears to me, the second scenario seems likely. But BRW left the sixth floor before the motorcade arrived, so he was able to move to the sniper’s nest as I believe he originally planned.

Yes, and Oswald had eyes and ears.  He knew the approximate schedule and witnesses indicated that you could hear the approach of the motorcade from the cheering along the route.  And the police radios reporting the progress of the motorcade were audible in DP.  No great feat that he was in place and waited for it.  It's fortunate for BRW that he left the floor or he likely would have gotten the last bullet as Oswald exited the floor.

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« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2023, 02:59:33 PM »

Why would that matter?

If Oswald expected the motorcade to pass TSBD at the scheduled time, he would've needed to be in the sniper's nest at the time when BRW (or someone else) was there. Unless he had a radio and was listening to the parade at the time, he couldn't have known that he had a few more minutes to get into his firing position. (he also couldn't have known that BRW would leave shortly before the motorcade arrived or been able to prevent anyone else from coming to the Sixth floor).

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2023, 03:06:59 PM »
If Oswald expected the motorcade to pass TSBD at the scheduled time, he would've needed to be in the sniper's nest at the time when BRW (or someone else) was there. Unless he had a radio and was listening to the parade at the time, he couldn't have known that he had a few more minutes to get into his firing position. (he also couldn't have known that BRW would leave shortly before the motorcade arrived or been able to prevent anyone else from coming to the Sixth floor).


So what? Did you even read the scenarios that I suggested? Can you not understand that either one of those scenarios does not require him to know when the motorcade will arrive?

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« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2023, 03:13:01 PM »
Taking cherry-picked words and isolating them from all of the other evidence and testimonies is not how one should form a conclusion.

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I'm not cherry-picking anything, Mr. Collins, you're just gaslighting.

Mr. Norman: "the floor construction guys" "[d]idn’t work for the Book Depository"
Mr. Collins: Norman is not saying the floor construction guys didn't work for the Book Depository

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« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2023, 03:19:03 PM »
From FBI interview report on Mrs. Lillian Mooneyham, 1/8/64:

Mrs. MOONEYHAM estimated that it was about 4 to 5 minutes following the shots fired by the assassin that she looked up towards the sixth floor of the TSBD and observed the figure of a man standing in a sixth floor window behind some cardboard boxes. This man appeared to Mrs. MOONEYHAM to be looking out of the window, however, the man was not close up to the window but was standing slightly back from it, so that Mrs. MOONEYHAM could not make out his features. She stated that she could give no description of this individual except to say that she is sure it was a man she observed, because the figure had on trousers. She could not recall the color of the trousers.

Who was this man?

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« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2023, 03:24:50 PM »
~Grin~

I'm not cherry-picking anything, Mr. Collins, you're just gaslighting.

Mr. Norman: "the floor construction guys" "[d]idn’t work for the Book Depository"
Mr. Collins: Norman is not saying the floor construction guys didn't work for the Book Depository

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Again, for anyone to believe that your interpretation is correct, they would have to, with no reason to, throw out all the other evidence and testimonies that contradict your rubbish. You can believe this nonsense if you want to. Apparently you are like Walt Cakebread who apparently believes his fantasies.

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« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2023, 03:27:32 PM »

So what? Did you even read the scenarios that I suggested? Can you not understand that either one of those scenarios does not require him to know when the motorcade will arrive?

If you have to imagine scenarios to fill in the gaps in evidence that prove Oswald did it, then you're proving my point that there's not enough evidence to place Oswald in the sniper's nest at the time when the shots were fired.

Not knowing the motorcade was running a few minutes late, he would've had a very short window of time to assemble the rifle and set up the sniper's nest.

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« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2023, 03:27:32 PM »