The Floor-Laying Crew

[Alan Ford]

Again, for anyone to believe that your interpretation is correct, they would have to, with no reason to, throw out all the other evidence and testimonies that contradict your rubbish. You can believe this nonsense if you want to. Apparently you are like Walt Cakebread who apparently believes his fantasies.

~Grin~

Mr Collins, are you or are you not still pressing the claim that Mr. Norman's statement that ""the floor construction guys" "[d]idn’t work for the Book Depository" does not amount to a statement by Mr. Norman that the floor construction guys didn't work for the Book Depository?

 

[Alan Ford]

In 2005, a man named Mr. Jim Conner, posted on the Dallas Historical Society forum. He said that his mother, sister and brother-in-law worked at the TSBD, and that his brother-in-law was Billy Lovelady.

Here's what Mr. Conner wrote:

After the incident, everyone at TSB was interviewed. My mother's story then and now has stayed the same. Her parking space was just behind the fence at the grassy knoll. When she arrived for work that morning, she confronted several men in a car parked in her parking spot. Being the fiesty, Scotch-Irish she was, she told them they were not supposed to be parking there. They ignored her and continued to involve themselves in removing packages from the trunk of their car. Packages she described as could have contained rifles. She went inside and reported the incident to the manager of TSB Mr. Truly.

Throughout the rest of the day no mention was made of the incident and when interviewed by DPD she told the same story. There was no SS followup, nor was FBI interested.

Mr. Steve Thomas, a researcher, followed up with Mr. Conner, and elicited this information from him:

She described the men as both of Spanish or Cuban extraction. At that time she had had little interplay with either nationality. Many years later she worked for the Immigration Dept. and felt that in retrospect that they were more than likely Cuban. The car was a Ford, 4 door Station Wagon with Texas license.(Cream colored) She wrote the license number down and gave it to Mr. Truly.

An outside-contractor flooring crew with full access to the Depository would have enjoyed this kind of unchallenged access. And one's sense is only strengthened that the assassination team was made up, at least in part, of Cubans

 

[Charles Collins]

~Grin~

Mr Collins, are you or are you not still pressing the claim that Mr. Norman's statement that ""the floor construction guys" "[d]idn’t work for the Book Depository" does not amount to a statement by Mr. Norman that the floor construction guys didn't work for the Book Depository?

 

Yes, because I believe that the warehouse, in Norman's thinking, was separate from the depository building (and, in fact, it physically was). But I already stated this earlier in this thread. And, regardless of whether you agree or not, one statement by one individual that contradicts all the other evidence and testimonies and has no corroboration at all is no reason to draw a conclusion that your interpretation is correct. And I also already stated this earlier in the thread. I will not go round and round in circles with you on this. It is your thread, go ahead and spout all your nonsense. But only a biased fool would believe that your interpretation is correct.

[Alan Ford]

Yes, because I believe that the warehouse, in Norman's thinking, was separate from the depository building (and, in fact, it physically was).

Lol, I don't care what you believe, Mr. Collins, because we all know you will only believe what comports with the official hoax you have fallen for.

I'm interested in facts. And the fact-------which no amount of desperate gaslighting from you can change---------is that everyone who worked at the warehouse worked for the Depository. And Mr. Norman several times mentions the warehouse, but not in relation to the carpenters who were brought in for the floor-laying job. As he confirmed to Mr. Sample, they were outside contractors, not a single one of whom he could name.

So........... what else you got?

 

[Charles Collins]

If you have to imagine scenarios to fill in the gaps in evidence that prove Oswald did it, then you're proving my point that there's not enough evidence to place Oswald in the sniper's nest at the time when the shots were fired.

Not knowing the motorcade was running a few minutes late, he would've had a very short window of time to assemble the rifle and set up the sniper's nest.

If you have to imagine scenarios to fill in the gaps in evidence that prove Oswald did it, then you're proving my point that there's not enough evidence to place Oswald in the sniper's nest at the time when the shots were fired.

No, unless one was there and looking over his shoulder and witnessed everything, possible scenarios are necessary in order to describe what happened. I just provided a couple of possible scenarios that show that your idea that he had to know exactly when the motorcade would arrive is false. That's what they proved in this thread.



Not knowing the motorcade was running a few minutes late, he would've had a very short window of time to assemble the rifle and set up the sniper's nest.


Not if he already had it set up.

[Charles Collins]

Lol, I don't care what you believe, Mr. Collins, because we all know you will only believe what comports with the official hoax you have fallen for.

I'm interested in facts. And the fact-------which no amount of desperate gaslighting from you can change---------is that everyone who worked at the warehouse worked for the Depository. And Mr. Norman several times mentions the warehouse, but not in relation to the carpenters who were brought in for the floor-laying job. As he confirmed to Mr. Sample, they were outside contractors, not a single one of whom he could name.

So........... what else you got?

 

Just like all the other evidence and testimonies that contradict your interpretation, you throw out what I have said for no apparent reason. Good luck with trying to get anyone to believe you. I'm done.

[Alan Ford]

Friends, let us imagine (purely for argument's sake) that neither Mr. Truly nor Mr. Shelley knew of the plot beforehand. In all innocence, they hired a team of carpenters to come in for a big floor-laying project.

The assassination happens. Once it is established that everyone in the internal floor-laying crew left the sixth floor for their break, Mr. Truly and Mr. Shelley realise in horror who must have carried out the assassination.

Do they
a) tell the authorities all about this crew?
b) keep schtum (out of personal fear of reprisal and of being arrested for complicity), and get the internal crew to pretend they and they alone had been doing the floor-laying?

And once Mr. Oswald is singled out as the prime suspect, do they
i) defend their man, even at the risk of drawing heat on themselves?
ii) let him be fed to the wolves by doing all they can to help the authorities' ridiculous LN narrative?

 

[Alan Ford]

Just like all the other evidence and testimonies that contradict your interpretation, you throw out what I have said for no apparent reason. Good luck with trying to get anyone to believe you. I'm done.

~Grin~

Given that my conclusion is that the existence of an outside crew was deep-sixed for very, very good reason, what you call "the other evidence and testimonies" does not in the least contradict my conclusion. The Depository men who had helped out on six were terrified afterwards, and so they kept silent about those men for fear of their lives. Doubtless you would have been so much braver, fearless truth-seeker that you are, but there we are.

Thankfully, Mr. Norman did not keep silent. And when he tells us that the construction guys did not work for the Depository, I do not do what you do, which is to advance the preposterous argument that he is not telling us that the construction guys did not work for the Depository.

When you find yourself torturing the English language in the way you have been doing here, Mr. Collins, you really ought to take a step back and  try some critical self-reflection!