The Floor-Laying Crew

[Richard Smith]

Right. Curry clearly meant that they didn’t have enough evidence to prove that Oswald was on the Sixth floor shooting a rifle that day.

Oswald was arrested and charged with the crime.  That would seemingly indicate that Curry believed they had enough evidence to prove the crime.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Oswald was arrested and charged with the crime.  That would seemingly indicate that Curry believed they had enough evidence to prove the crime.

I don't think Curry had much if any say in the filing of the charges, right? That was Wade's decision along with his assistants. From his testimony it seems he wasn't consulted about the charges.

Representative FORD - What evidence did you have at that point [when the charges were made]?
Mr. CURRY - I couldn't tell you all the evidence. I think Captain Fritz can tell you better than I. Captain Fritz Just told me on Friday afternoon he said, "We have sufficient evidence to file a case on Oswald for the murder of Tippit." Later on that night, somewhere around midnight, I believe, he told me, he said, "We now have sufficient evidence to file on Lee Harvey Oswald for the assassination of President Kennedy." He told me he had talked it over with Henry Wade and with the assistant district attorney and they agreed we had enough evidence to file a case, and a decision was made then to file the case, which we did.

[Charles Collins]

https://emuseum.jfk.org/objects/4507/harold-norman-oral-history?ctx=bf69a30fdada59d68a55ebc9592a3ff66ca46cff&idx=226

Thank you! Here are some of my impressions of the Sixth Floor Museum interview:

There is nothing in it that led me to believe there was an “outside crew” on the sixth floor.

Norman doesn’t remember seeing the 6’-2” worker on 11/22/63, (I believed that he was describing a coworker who he regularly discussed boxing with from listening to the tape).

Norman’s assertions that there was no coercion from any of the authorities who interviewed him, including the WC, to try to get him to testify to anything but the truth are some of the most important statements that he made. Another one is that Norman confirms that everything in his testimony transcripts is what he actually said at that time.



I don’t know who Mr. Glen Sample is, but in the excerpt of the 1993 interview that you posted in the first post of this thread, it appears to me that Sample is trying to put words in Norman’s mouth…

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Thank you! Here are some of my impressions of the Sixth Floor Museum interview:

There is nothing in it that led me to believe there was an “outside crew” on the sixth floor.

Norman doesn’t remember seeing the 6’-2” worker on 11/22/63, (I believed that he was describing a coworker who he regularly discussed boxing with from listening to the tape).

Norman’s assertions that there was no coercion from any of the authorities who interviewed him, including the WC, to try to get him to testify to anything but the truth are some of the most important statements that he made. Another one is that Norman confirms that everything in his testimony transcripts is what he actually said at that time.



I don’t know who Mr. Glen Sample is, but in the excerpt of the 1993 interview that you posted in the first post of this thread, it appears to me that Sample is trying to put words in Norman’s mouth…

I haven't followed all of this but Williams said he cut wood for the floor. So if they had a separate/"outside" crew to do the floor would he have worked with them?

Mr. WILLIAMS: They called me up to help lay a floor on the fifth floor, they wanted more boards over it. As I say, business was slow, and they were trying to keep us on without laying us off at the time. So I was using the saw, helping cut wood and lay wood.
Mr. BALL. You were laying a wood floor over the old floor?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir.

And Givens:
Mr. GIVENS. Well, I work on the first floor most of the time, like we fill orders. We like work out of the stock downstairs. We go upstairs. We have stock on three floors, fifth, sixth, and seventh.
Mr. BELIN. Well, do you fill orders for any particular publisher more than another, so that you might be on the fifth floor, or the sixth floor more than the seventh, or do you just spend as much time on any one of those top floors as you do on any other top floor?
Mr. GIVENS. That's right.
Mr. BELIN. Is that what you were doing on the 22d of November 1963, also?
Mr. GIVENS. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. What were you doing on November 22?
Mr. GIVENS. We were fixing the floor, putting down some plywood on the floor.
Mr. BELIN. What floor would this have been on?
Mr. GIVENS. Sixth.
Mr. BELIN. What part of the sixth floor?
Mr. GIVENS. We were working. on the west end.

So Truly wanted to keep them employed at a down time so he had them lay floors (fifth and sixth). Why call them over to cut/lay a floor if there was an "outside" crew to do that? If there's a separate crew to do this then they wouldn't have been called over to do the job.

[John Iacoletti]

At the time of Oswald’s arrest, they had no evidence to charge him with murder. They didn’t even have evidence for probable cause to make an arrest.

[Alan Ford]

Debunked ages ago.

What exactly has been debunked?

[Alan Ford]

Thank you! Here are some of my impressions of the Sixth Floor Museum interview:

There is nothing in it that led me to believe there was an “outside crew” on the sixth floor.

Norman doesn’t remember seeing the 6’-2” worker on 11/22/63, (I believed that he was describing a coworker who he regularly discussed boxing with from listening to the tape).

Norman’s assertions that there was no coercion from any of the authorities who interviewed him, including the WC, to try to get him to testify to anything but the truth are some of the most important statements that he made. Another one is that Norman confirms that everything in his testimony transcripts is what he actually said at that time.

Truly bizarre "impressions" to take from the audio, Mr. Collins! Once again, you show yourself congenitally incapable of anything other than listening, reading, thinking and arguing past the sale. Anything that doesn't comport with the official story, you just explain away with recourse to preposterous argument.

Mr. Norman explicitly distinguishes between "us" and "the carpenters". When asked to name a single "carpenter", he cannot. Yet he has no trouble (elsewhere in the interview) remembering the names Lovelady, Shelley, Givens, Williams. Ergo, the carpenters were not one of "us".

And, in the 1993 interview, he fleshes this simple fact out: outside crew, with Depository employees helping them out

I don’t know who Mr. Glen Sample is, but in the excerpt of the 1993 interview that you posted in the first post of this thread, it appears to me that Sample is trying to put words in Norman’s mouth…

Lol, the only one trying to put words in Mr. Norman's mouth is you.

Here are Mr. Norman's words: "we went up there sometimes to move stuff around for the floor construction guys. They didn’t work for the Book Depository, but if our work got slow, we would give them a hand"

Here is your 'analysis': Norman isn't actually saying the floor construction guys didn't work for the Book Depository

 

[Alan Ford]

So Truly wanted to keep them employed at a down time so he had them lay floors (fifth and sixth). Why call them over to cut/lay a floor if there was an "outside" crew to do that? If there's a separate crew to do this then they wouldn't have been called over to do the job.

They were helping