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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: When the SN was built
« Reply #152 on: February 07, 2023, 01:28:56 AM »
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You got one thing correct.  Oswald touched the boxes very shortly before the DPD discovered them on 11.22!  HA HA HA.  Good catch.

Even if that is correct, it’s still anybody’s guess what “Richard” thinks this proves. “Very shortly”. LOL.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #153 on: February 07, 2023, 01:29:46 AM »
Yet, If no prints of LHO had been found in the sniper’s nest these clowns would claim the evidentiary value was of extreme importance.  ::)   :D

The straw is getting really thick in here.

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« Reply #154 on: February 07, 2023, 01:31:23 AM »
Why would a reasonable person do that? Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. There is no evidentiary value either way, but it is extremely telling that LNs need this kind of desparate argument to even begin to make a case.

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Exactly. Anything and everything becomes “evidence” when speculation is all you’ve got.

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Re: When the SN was built
« Reply #155 on: February 07, 2023, 11:26:28 AM »
The straw is getting really thick in here.

Only hypothetically.


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Exactly. Anything and everything becomes “evidence” when speculation is all you’ve got.


Yet, we have seen it insinuated many times that the absence of anyone reporting seeing LHO on the stairs just after the assassination is evidence that he couldn’t have been there.


And if there had been no LHO prints found in the sniper’s nest we would have a loud chorus of nay sayers and CTers asking “how could he have built the sniper’s nest and left no prints?” Also, “how could he have even been in the sniper’s nest and left no prints?”

I smell something….

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« Reply #156 on: February 07, 2023, 01:41:26 PM »
Yet, we have seen it insinuated many times that the absence of anyone reporting seeing LHO on the stairs just after the assassination is evidence that he couldn’t have been there.

We have seen it insinuated many times that the absence of anyone reporting seeing LHO on the front steps during the assassination is evidence that he couldn’t have been there.

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And if there had been no LHO prints found in the sniper’s nest we would have a loud chorus of nay sayers and CTers asking “how could he have built the sniper’s nest and left no prints?” Also, “how could he have even been in the sniper’s nest and left no prints?”

And if there had been no LHO print presented as having been found in the sniper's nest we would have a loud chorus of Warren Gullibles asking "could he not have wiped the box clean?" Also, "doesn't this prove he wasn't framed for the crime?"

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Re: When the SN was built
« Reply #157 on: February 07, 2023, 02:10:17 PM »
Only hypothetically.



Yet, we have seen it insinuated many times that the absence of anyone reporting seeing LHO on the stairs just after the assassination is evidence that he couldn’t have been there.


And if there had been no LHO prints found in the sniper’s nest we would have a loud chorus of nay sayers and CTers asking “how could he have built the sniper’s nest and left no prints?” Also, “how could he have even been in the sniper’s nest and left no prints?”

I smell something….

CTers have suggested many times that there should have been MORE prints on the rifle and bag if Oswald had handled it.  They note the absence of rifle oils etc on the bag.  And on and on.  It is a hopeless and impossible task to use facts, common sense, and logic on contrarians playing defense attorney.  When you use logic, they respond with illogic.  When you use illogic, they respond with logic.  A circle of futility. 

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Re: When the SN was built
« Reply #158 on: February 07, 2023, 02:37:59 PM »
CTers have suggested many times that there should have been MORE prints on the rifle and bag if Oswald had handled it.  They note the absence of rifle oils etc on the bag.  And on and on.  It is a hopeless and impossible task to use facts, common sense, and logic on contrarians playing defense attorney.  When you use logic, they respond with illogic.  When you use illogic, they respond with logic.  A circle of futility.
It's revealing that every piece of evidence they demand be shown in the assassination of JFK to persuade them of Oswald's guilt can be provided in the shooting of Tippit. If they complain about the absence of "A" in one case it can be shown to exist in another. Their demands in the second case are met.

The two cases then can be a sort of test or comparison to show the sincerity of a person's demands.

So do they accept that evidence in the shooting of Tippit? Their demands have been satisfied, their questions answered: the same ones they want in the assassination of JFK. But again they reject the evidence there as well. The multiple witnesses, the physical evidence, the circumstantial evidence. Everything they wanted in one event can be found in the other. But they reject this too.

There are "good faith" arguments to be made. And "bad faith" ones too. Putting the two events side-by-side reveals the good ones from the bad.

Shorter: If you want to believe in a conspiracy, if you have some weird need to absolve Oswald, you can say and believe in a lot of strange things along the way. This is an example of it.
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Re: When the SN was built
« Reply #159 on: February 07, 2023, 02:40:57 PM »
We have seen it insinuated many times that the absence of anyone reporting seeing LHO on the front steps during the assassination is evidence that he couldn’t have been there.

And if there had been no LHO print presented as having been found in the sniper's nest we would have a loud chorus of Warren Gullibles asking "could he not have wiped the box clean?" Also, "doesn't this prove he wasn't framed for the crime?"

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We have seen it insinuated many times that the absence of anyone reporting seeing LHO on the front steps during the assassination is evidence that he couldn’t have been there.

The photographic record indicates that many of those people who said they didn’t see LHO on the steps were, um, actually there during the assassination.

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Re: When the SN was built
« Reply #159 on: February 07, 2023, 02:40:57 PM »