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[Alan Ford]

Maybe you can’t read.

~Grin~

Maybe I can, and maybe that's why you don't wish to answer the question: What time do you believe the sounds of the ambulance arrival happened?

Another way of asking this question would be: What time do you believe Mr. Oswald heard the sounds of the ambulance arrival?

Another way of asking this question would be: What time do you believe Mr. Oswald was spotted by Mr. Rowland near the SW window of the sixth floor?

Take your pick, Mr. Collins! 

[Charles Collins]

~Grin~

Maybe I can, and maybe that's why you don't wish to answer the question: What time do you believe the sounds of the ambulance arrival happened?

Another way of asking this question would be: What time do you believe Mr. Oswald heard the sounds of the ambulance arrival?

Another way of asking this question would be: What time do you believe Mr. Oswald was spotted by Mr. Rowland near the SW window of the sixth floor?

Take your pick, Mr. Collins! 

This is so typical of the nonsense spouted by the CT and nay sayer crowd. One perceived minor discrepancy and they act like they have completely obliterated the whole thing.   

The timing of the sound of the siren isn’t critical to the theory (and remember this is only conjecture). There was some commotion associated with the epileptic event before the ambulance arrived. It was enough to get Mrs. Rowland’s attention (she reportedly saw it about the same time that Arnold Rowland was seeing the man with the rifle). Between the onset of the epileptic seizure and the time of the arrival of the ambulance there was likely commotion that could be heard on the sixth floor of the TSBD. Perhaps someone calling for help, or a traffic cop stopping traffic by using his whistle, etc. The point is that the commotion associated with the event could have caused him to look to see if the motorcade was approaching. (And unlike you and your silly theories, I present this as conjecture.)

[Jack Nessan]

Oswald likely scouted and/or knew from his experience in working in the building the various locations that offered the best combintations of seclusion and shooting angle.  If it had turned out that a group of folks were on the 6th floor, he probably would have just gone up to the 7th floor where there would have been no one.  I think the ledge under the 7th floor window might have been the reason he didn't do that in the first place.  Just speculation, though, as it turned out to be unnecessary.

There are a lot of "ifs" that determined the outcome. If Marina would have agreed to look at apartments that day for one.

I don’t think the 7th floor windows can be opened and I don’t know about the roof. Like you said, LHO probably had searched for an alternative. He obviously saw they were working on that floor.

LHO ended up choosing the best location with the way the road slopes away from the building. He would not have had to adjust his aim much to correct for the movement of the car. No other window in the building would have worked as well except maybe the floor below.

 

[Jack Nessan]

Of course any answer would just be conjecture. But my theory on it is this. There is credible evidence, in my opinion, from Arnold Rowland of seeing someone who resembled LHO with a rifle at the west end of the sixth floor for no more than 30-seconds sometime around 12:15 but no later than about 12:25. So my much earlier opinion that LHO was sitting in the sniper’s nest the whole time BRW was eating his lunch seems questionable.

It appears to me that LHO probably went to the west end of the sixth floor, shortly after Givens left, to retrieve his rifle that he hid there that morning. Before he could take the rifle back to the already prepared sniper’s nest, BRW came up to the sixth floor and ate his lunch. LHO stayed quiet and out of sight near the stairwell on the sixth floor. If BRW had come over that way LHO could have left via the stairs. When the sounds of the ambulance arrival happened LHO probably felt the need to find out if that was the motorcade arriving. If it had been the motorcade, LHO could have fired shots from the west window before anyone could stop him. However, once BRW left, LHO was able to go to the sniper’s nest in the SE corner as he originally planned.

If the above is wrong, and LHO actually was in the sniper’s nest the whole time, and BRW had come over there and had seen him, he could have simply said he was waiting to see the motorcade. This is provided his rifle was not in the line of sight of BRW. Perhaps the rifle was on the floor against the tall stack of boxes, this would be out of sight of anyone not inside the tiny sniper’s nest but close enough for LHO to grab it when needed. I don’t see any scenario where LHO would kill BRW before the motorcade arrived. That would create too much noise and draw unwanted attention which would cause an abortiion of the assassination anyway.

I would not give Rowland’s sighting any credibility at all, but in reality, it changes nothing. The rest of the conjecture is entirely possible. LHO was obviously hiding there somewhere.

 

[Charles Collins]

I would not give Rowland’s sighting any credibility at all, but in reality, it changes nothing. The rest of the conjecture is entirely possible. LHO was obviously hiding there somewhere.

Until I saw with my 3D model how many of the details of what Rowland described that he could see from his position actually appeared reasonably accurate for LHO being there, I didn’t give his sighting much credibility either. Now, I think that it could make sense.

[Jack Nessan]

Until I saw with my 3D model how many of the details of what Rowland described that he could see from his position actually appeared reasonably accurate for LHO being there, I didn’t give his sighting much credibility either. Now, I think that it could make sense.

I was unaware of the 3D model. 

Specter understands what is wrong with Rowland's description of the man and basically fillets him over his description of a man standing in a window with the window sill being located 14 inches off of the floor and an opening of 2 ½ feet above that. Rowland’s description never matches those dimensions and the whole port of arms thing becomes confused. He does not seem to know any of this, and I think that is why they were asking him if he had ever been in the building.

[Alan Ford]

This is so typical of the nonsense spouted by the CT and nay sayer crowd. One perceived minor discrepancy and they act like they have completely obliterated the whole thing.   

The timing of the sound of the siren isn’t critical to the theory (and remember this is only conjecture).

~Grin~

Ah, so it turns out  I was able to read after all, and you did have good reason not to want to answer my question---------------you hadn't thought through the timing implications of your ambulance siren idea. And now you have to drop it

 

[Alan Ford]

Until I saw with my 3D model how many of the details of what Rowland described that he could see from his position actually appeared reasonably accurate for LHO being there, I didn’t give his sighting much credibility either. Now, I think that it could make sense.

Another interesting insight into the Warren Gullible methodology: I will reject as 'not making sense' any piece of evidence that I cannot make conformable to the Lone-Nut-LHO scenario. If, however, I can find a way to make it conformable to the Lone-Nut-LHO scenario, I will declare that it 'makes sense' after all