When the SN was built

[Alan Ford]

I don’t think the 7th floor windows can be opened

Yet another clueless statement from Mr. Nessan



 

[Alan Ford]

I would not give Rowland’s sighting any credibility at all, but in reality, it changes nothing. The rest of the conjecture is entirely possible. LHO was obviously hiding there somewhere.

"obviously", lol

[Charles Collins]

I was unaware of the 3D model. 

Specter understands what is wrong with Rowland's description of the man and basically fillets him over his description of a man standing in a window with the window sill being located 14 inches off of the floor and an opening of 2 ½ feet above that. Rowland’s description never matches those dimensions and the whole port of arms thing becomes confused. He does not seem to know any of this, and I think that is why they were asking him if he had ever been in the building.

Spector did ask a lot of questions, and, after testing some of the answers with my 3D model, I felt Rowland got things right. That and the fact that Rowland said something to his wife at the time (before any shots were fired) and his 11/22/63 affidavit seems legit. I cannot say the same about his later embellishments regarding the elderly black man though.

Here's a view of the west windows in the 3D model from Rowland's viewpoint:



The figure is about 5' back (north) from the inside of the south wall. Please ignore the missing window in the western most opening, my model is constantly being altered and I just have it invisible at the moment. The rifle is there, at port arms, but a little hard to discern due to the dark suit of the figure. Remember that Rowland said he had on a light colored shirt, possibly a tshirt.

[Charles Collins]

~Grin~

Ah, so it turns out  I was able to read after all, and you did have good reason not to want to answer my question---------------you hadn't thought through the timing implications of your ambulance siren idea. And now you have to drop it

 

The reason I responded without answering is because you were asking for something I had already stated. I wasn’t going to repeat myself for you. Next time just state what your issue is. It might go smoother if you do.

[Charles Collins]

Another interesting insight into the Warren Gullible methodology: I will reject as 'not making sense' any piece of evidence that I cannot make conformable to the Lone-Nut-LHO scenario. If, however, I can find a way to make it conformable to the Lone-Nut-LHO scenario, I will declare that it 'makes sense' after all

 

You don’t have a clue as to what my thinking was. Stop acting like you do. Arnold Rowland said he saw something that no one else did. Being skeptical would be considered normal for most folks. However, instead of dismissing his account without giving it a fair trial, I tested his description in my 3D model. I was impressed that he got so many details right. So, I think we should be open to the possibility that Arnold Rowland saw a man with a rifle.

[Alan Ford]

The reason I responded without answering is because you were asking for something I had already stated. I wasn’t going to repeat myself for you. Next time just state what your issue is. It might go smoother if you do.

~Grin~

You put forward the idea that Mr. Oswald came close to the SW window after hearing the ambulance siren. I asked you what time you believed this would have been, and you refused to answer. Then you walked back your goof by-----------dropping the siren idea!

 

[Alan Ford]

You don’t have a clue as to what my thinking was. Stop acting like you do. Arnold Rowland said he saw something that no one else did. Being skeptical would be considered normal for most folks. However, instead of dismissing his account without giving it a fair trial, I tested his description in my 3D model. I was impressed that he got so many details right. So, I think we should be open to the possibility that Arnold Rowland saw a man with a rifle.

Only because you feel you can make that conformable to the LHO-Lone-Nut theory, LOL. If you couldn't, you wouldn't dream of giving it a fair trial--------you'd just treat it like you do Mr. Rowland's disastrous (for you) 'elderly Negro' sighting, i.e. dismiss it as an "embellishment".

Speaking of which...............

Mr. ROWLAND - [T]he next day on Saturday there were a pair of FBI officers, agents out at my home, and they took another handwritten statement from me which I signed again, and this was basically the same. At that time I told them I did see the Negro man there and they told me it didn't have any bearing or such on the case right then. In fact, they just the same as told me to forget it now.

But no, he's a young man with impressive powers of recollection one minute, and an egregious liar (or hallucinating halfwit) the next. Standard Warren Gullible 'objectivity': Given that LHO acted alone, and any other possibility is crazy, let us proceed now to explore this item of evidence rigorously and impartially 

[Jack Nessan]

Spector did ask a lot of questions, and, after testing some of the answers with my 3D model, I felt Rowland got things right. That and the fact that Rowland said something to his wife at the time (before any shots were fired) and his 11/22/63 affidavit seems legit. I cannot say the same about his later embellishments regarding the elderly black man though.

Here's a view of the west windows in the 3D model from Rowland's viewpoint:



The figure is about 5' back (north) from the inside of the south wall. Please ignore the missing window in the western most opening, my model is constantly being altered and I just have it invisible at the moment. The rifle is there, at port arms, but a little hard to discern due to the dark suit of the figure. Remember that Rowland said he had on a light colored shirt, possibly a tshirt.

Interesting. I have a completely different take on Rowland and his sightings. He gives multiple answers that do not correlate to each other and gave answers and details, for no discernable reason, that were just completely wrong. Basically, Rowland and Alan Ford appear to have graduated from the same clown college.