Sy Hersh: Biden ordered German pipeline sabotage

[Martin Weidmann]

Just reading what you wrote. 

"It was a delicate matter for the Germans and they were indeed hestitant to cross that line"

 "after three wars in less than a century, they did not want to be drawn into another militairy conflict. It's for the same reason that NATO is treading lightly."

Again, I'm not criticizing the Germans and NATO countries.  In fact, the opposite.  There is good reason to be "hesitant" when getting involved in an endless regional conflict.  The US never learns that lesson or the corrupt politicians intentionally disregard it to gain access to billions of dollars.  Either way another disaster in the works.  The disputed regions of Ukraine are now a moonscape.

What you are not getting is that the Germans were not pressured to change their own law. They did so, although reluctant, because they understood the need and urgency to do so. When the Balkan war was going on they refused to supply weapons because it was a regional conflict. This time around the implications of Putin not being stopped dead in his tracks were simply to great for them. They, Nato and Biden understand what you don't. You just are happy to trade human lives for (saving) money.

And, you may find this disturbing, but the Russian advance in Bakhmut has now been halted, the Wagner group is admitting to heavy losses, Ukraine forces are now advancing at Melitopol (which will allow them to cut of Russian supply lines to Crimea) and Putin is now admitting that the economic sanctions are taking their toll on his country. The U.K. has now supplied tanks to Ukraine, as have Poland and Germany. It may take a while but the right side is winning... and all you can do is complain about how much money the US is putting into it. It's pathetic!

[Richard Smith]

What you are not getting is that the Germans were not pressured to change their own law. They did so, although reluctant, because they understood the need and urgency to do so. When the Balkan war was going on they refused to supply weapons because it was a regional conflict. This time around the implications of Putin not being stopped dead in his tracks were simply to great for them. They, Nato and Biden understand what you don't. You just are happy to trade human lives for (saving) money.

And, you may find this disturbing, but the Russian advance in Bakhmut has now been halted, the Wagner group is admitting to heavy losses, Ukraine forces are now advancing at Melitopol (which will allow them to cut of Russian supply lines to Crimea) and Putin is now admitting that the economic sanctions are taking their toll on his country. The U.K. has now supplied tanks to Ukraine, as have Poland and Germany. It may take a while but the right side is winning... and all you can do is complain about how much money the US is putting into it. It's pathetic!

The Germans were clearly pressured by the US and other countries to do this.  It is a matter of record.  The Germans and other NATO countries have contributed very little to this effort despite the repeated claims that they are most at risk from Russia.  They don't seem particularly worried, though, and are understandably content to let the US bankroll this effort as the US has bankrolled their national defense for the last 70 years. 

[Martin Weidmann]

The Germans were clearly pressured by the US and other countries to do this.  It is a matter of record.  The Germans and other NATO countries have contributed very little to this effort despite the repeated claims that they are most at risk from Russia.  They don't seem particularly worried, though, and are understandably content to let the US bankroll this effort as the US has bankrolled their national defense for the last 70 years.

The Germans were clearly pressured by the US and other countries to do this.  It is a matter of record.

Produce the record!

The Germans and other NATO countries have contributed very little to this effort despite the repeated claims that they are most at risk from Russia. They don't seem particularly worried, though, and are understandably content to let the US bankroll this effort 

You need new material. This BS is getting old and repeating it time after time doesn't make it true

[Richard Smith]

The Germans were clearly pressured by the US and other countries to do this.  It is a matter of record.

Produce the record!

The Germans and other NATO countries have contributed very little to this effort despite the repeated claims that they are most at risk from Russia. They don't seem particularly worried, though, and are understandably content to let the US bankroll this effort 

You need new material. This BS is getting old and repeating it time after time doesn't make it true

https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts

[Richard Smith]

I guess the investigation here goes on and on.  Maybe seven years from now we will find out what happened.  Like the Durham report.  Like the Wuhan lab.  Like Hunter's laptop.  Of course, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that the story that the Russians did this doesn't add up. 

[Martin Weidmann]

I guess the investigation here goes on and on.  Maybe seven years from now we will find out what happened.  Like the Durham report.  Like the Wuhan lab.  Like Hunter's laptop.  Of course, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that the story that the Russians did this doesn't add up.

Just too bad that the Danish authorities have released information that, in the days prior to the explosions, a Russian ship was sighted near the site.

So much for "common sense"

[Jon Banks]

I guess the investigation here goes on and on.  Maybe seven years from now we will find out what happened.  Like the Durham report.  Like the Wuhan lab.  Like Hunter's laptop.  Of course, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that the story that the Russians did this doesn't add up.

In 50 years, we'll find out it was the US, just like the admission of our responsibility in overthrowing Iran's President took around 50 years.

[Jon Banks]

Just too bad that the Danish authorities have released information that, in the days prior to the explosions, a Russian ship was sighted near the site.

So much for "common sense"

Doesn't prove anything.

No one doubts that Russia has the capability an opportunities. The problem is they lack a motive and they even tried unsuccessfully to repair the pipelines. They've also been more outspoken than other countries in calling for an international investigation.