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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2023, 05:17:49 AM »
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A demonstrably false talking point.  Not every book ever written can be kept in a school or library.  And some books are not age appropriate for school children.  No reasonable person would take issue with that conclusion.

False again. These books have been in school libraries for decades.   

EVERY book ever written in human history is available to the parents of any child who wishes to buy it.  Every single book.  No book is banned in the US.  The only writing that I know of that is currently banned from the public is the manifesto of the radical leftist terrorist who attacked a religious school.  It is has been illegally suppressed by the FBI from the public.   No one has access to it.  That is what is meant by a "banned" book.

Illegally suppressed? The FBI is still investigating the shooters motives so it's not being "suppressed". 

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2023, 03:02:48 PM »
False again. These books have been in school libraries for decades.   

Illegally suppressed? The FBI is still investigating the shooters motives so it's not being "suppressed".

Libraries often change the books that they choose to make available for many reasons.  That doesn't mean a book is banned.  EVERY book in human history is available to any American who wishes to purchase it.  There has been no time in history when so many books are available at our fingertips.  You can literally order any book online and have it seconds later.  It is a leftist talking point fantasy to suggest that because some parents and school board members object to certain books because of the sexual content, that this books is somehow banned.  Laughable.  If anything, it is actually radical leftists who are attempting to ban books or even imprison authors for "misgendering" individuals.  They are also censoring books to change content to suit their radical woke agenda.  That is 1984 stuff.

In stark contrast, the radicalized leftist manifesto has been banned by the federal government.  There is no public access to that document.   Could it be made available to the public while the FBI continues to "investigate the shooters motive"?  Of course it could.  It is idiotic to suggest that making the manifesto public would somehow infringe on the FBI's ability to analyze the document.  Even you can't believe that is the reason.  They are clearly suppressing this document for as long as possible for political purposes.  Hoping that the news cycle moves on and interest wanes before the contents are released. 
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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2023, 04:05:36 AM »
Montana Republicans have just voted to ban State Rep. Zooey Zephyr simply for speaking up against an anti-transgender bill. Another example of Republican fascism in broad daylight. Republicans are still continuing to discriminate against American citizens with fascist laws. When elected Reps speak out against this travesty these same Republicans vote to silence their voice. 

Montana House votes to discipline Rep. Zephyr, ban from floor, agenda
https://dailymontanan.com/2023/04/26/montana-house-votes-to-discipline-rep-zephyr-ban-from-floor-agenda/

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2023, 01:28:54 PM »
Where have we seen this before?  According to Wash Post, the recently leaked documents confirm that Afghanistan has once again become a terrorist haven.   Imagine that.  After 20 years of the establishment politicians and generals telling the US public that all was going great, the whole thing unraveled in a single week.  Compounded by the disgraceful and incompetent exit administered by Old Joe and his clown show.  Leaving an estimated $8 billion in military equipment to the Taliban.  You can't make that kind of thing up.  An act of treason.  No one was even fired, though.  Russia was emboldened by that weakness to invade Ukraine.  China has been emboldened to invade Taiwan.  And Ukraine Joe is trying to read note cards to remember who the WH reporters are that ask questions.  It is surreal.  And the topper is that he could be president for another six years because of the obsessed Trump haters who care about nothing except keeping Trump from office!   Imagine Biden's mental and physical condition in a few more years.  It is frightening.

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2023, 04:38:08 AM »
Where have we seen this before?  According to Wash Post, the recently leaked documents confirm that Afghanistan has once again become a terrorist haven.   Imagine that.  After 20 years of the establishment politicians and generals telling the US public that all was going great, the whole thing unraveled in a single week.  Compounded by the disgraceful and incompetent exit administered by Old Joe and his clown show.  Leaving an estimated $8 billion in military equipment to the Taliban.  You can't make that kind of thing up.  An act of treason.  No one was even fired, though.  Russia was emboldened by that weakness to invade Ukraine.  China has been emboldened to invade Taiwan.  And Ukraine Joe is trying to read note cards to remember who the WH reporters are that ask questions.  It is surreal.  And the topper is that he could be president for another six years because of the obsessed Trump haters who care about nothing except keeping Trump from office!   Imagine Biden's mental and physical condition in a few more years.  It is frightening.

Afghanistan is a terrorist haven because Criminal Donald released 5000 Taliban terrorists. Imagine that.

Criminal Donald also removed nearly all of our troops giving Biden nothing to work with for the withdrawal.

Criminal Donald caved to the Taliban surrendering to their demands as they were cheering. Total weakness and incompetence from Donnie.   

This was Trump's disaster and everybody knew it would be, but those on the right want to blame Biden for it...totally pathetic.

You can read all about Trump's Afghanistan disaster below and you all should remember it because we all lived through it.


Trump’s perilous approach to Afghanistan
23 Nov 2020
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/trumps-perilous-approach-to-afghanistan/

Military officials blindsided by Trump announcement of early US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan
Oct 8, 2020
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/10/08/taliban-cheer-trump-tweet-promising-early-us-troop-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

U.S to free 5,000 Taliban fighters, lift sanctions on leaders in Afghan peace deal
March 1, 2020

The U.S. will free up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners and begin to remove economic sanctions on top Taliban leaders under the terms of a deal signed Saturday between the two sides.

The Trump administration’s long-awaited peace agreement with the Taliban — which could see the U.S. remove all of its 13,000 troops from Afghanistan within the next 14 months — includes a host of major concessions that have drawn fire from critics who say American national security could suffer. Key U.S. officials officially signed the pact on Saturday and the four-page document was released publicly soon after.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/1/us-free-5000-taliban-fighters-lift-sanctions-leade/


Taliban talks: US peace envoy 'not happy about' release of prisoners
14September 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54155768

Trump 'to order further troop withdrawal' from Afghanistan and Iraq
16 November 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54968200

Trump ordered rapid withdrawal from Afghanistan after election loss
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/10/13/trump-ordered-rapid-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-after-election-loss/

Trump put 5,000 Taliban fighters back in battle and tied Biden’s hands in Afghanistan
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/13/2045701/-Trump-put-5-000-Taliban-fighters-back-in-battle-and-tied-Biden-s-hands-in-Afghanistan

Trump's Afghanistan withdrawal announcement takes US officials by surprise
Tweet calling for troops’ return by Christmas puts peace negotiations in jeopardy and was greeted enthusiastically by the Taliban
8 October 2020

Donald Trump has announced on Twitter that he wants to bring all US troops home from Afghanistan by Christmas – a plan that came as a surprise to administration officials and which puts complicated peace negotiations in jeopardy.

Multiple officials told the Associated Press they had not been informed of any such deadline and military experts said it would be impossible to withdraw all 5,000 US troops in Afghanistan and dismantle the US military headquarters by the end of the year.

They suggested the president’s claim was aimed at shifting the news cycle away from coronavirus coverage and that the Pentagon would not act on the order before the 3 November US election.

The announcement was, however, greeted enthusiastically by the Taliban on Thursday. If Trump follows through, the militant group would almost certainly claim it as a victory, after decades of couching their fight as a war against foreign aggression.

“It’s no surprise that the Taliban have welcomed Trump’s announcement that he’d have the troops home by Christmas. They spent 19 years fighting for this,” said Ashley Jackson, the director of the ODI’s Centre for the Study of Armed Groups.

“This is the last leverage the US had left in talks with the Taliban, and Trump is proposing to give it away for free.”

Without the prospect of US military pressure, the Taliban would have little incentive to stay at the negotiating table with representatives of the Kabul government.

From a practical point of view, disentangling a 19-year military presence would take considerably longer than two months.

“It’s October, so no – it’s ridiculous. It’s simply can’t happen,” said Jason Dempsey, a former infantry officer who served in Afghanistan. “We could make some superficial show of pulling out uniformed troops, but obviously we still have a very massive contractor presence, and we would need a uniformed headquarters to oversee the shutdown and withdrawal of everything we have in country.”

Trump has made impulsive policy announcements about Afghanistan on Twitter before, including calling off a US-Taliban summit last year, shortly before a withdrawal agreement was first expected to be signed.

He also has a record of ordering abrupt and total troop withdrawals from foreign deployments. In most cases the Pentagon has sought to mitigate and slow the speed of the pullout but in some case the president has prevailed in bringing soldiers back home.

The Afghan government and Taliban negotiators are currently attempting to hammer out a new political settlement for the country in the Qatari capital. The peace talks were set up under a withdrawal agreement signed earlier this year between the Taliban and Trump’s administration.

The US-Taliban deal laid out a full departure of American forces by May 2021 but only if conditions on counter-terrorism were met, including severing ties with al-Qaida. Some critics of the Doha talks argue that the militants are merely marking time until the departure of US troops.

Trump’s plans were announced in a tweet late on Wednesday night. The White House doubled down on the message on Thursday morning: “our troops in Afghanistan are coming home by the end of the year”, the official Twitter account for the administration said.

It was the latest in a long line of ad hoc policy announcements from Trump that have caught his own advisers and military by surprise. His national security adviser, Robert O’Brien, had said shortly before Trump tweeted that troop numbers would be brought down to 2,500 early next year.

About 4,500 troops are currently on the ground in Afghanistan, reduced from over 12,000 when the deal was signed in February.

The Pentagon referred all requests for comment on Afghanistan drawdown plans to the White House.

The Taliban welcomed Trump’s remarks as “a positive step towards the implementation of [the] Doha agreement”, a spokesman for the Islamist group, Mohammad Naeem, said in a statement, referring to the US withdrawal deal.

Peace talks have been progressing slowly, with negotiators still trying to lay out the ground rules for their discussion. They are currently stalled on which school of Islam should be used when settling disputes.

Trump has made a promise to “end” America’s wars overseas part of his bid for re-election this year, promising to bring troops home from a constellation of conflict zones including Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.

But past pledges to bring back troops have often been abandoned, reversed or only partially completed.

After ordering a total withdrawal of US troops from Syria in October 2019, Trump was persuaded to let some stay on the grounds that they would protect oil installations there. A US military presence has remained, but it is about half the size of the thousand-strong force that was supporting Kurdish forces in northern Syria.

In July, the Pentagon announced it was pulling nearly 12,000 troops out of Germany, after Trump called for a total withdrawal to punish the Berlin government over policy disagreements.

Senior military officials made clear it would take years to redeploy that number of troops, and Congress is scrutinising the order. The drawdown of foreign deployed forces was dwarfed by the dispatch of 10,000 US troops to the Gulf following the killing of the Iranian general Qassem Suleimani in January.

Dempsey, now adjunct senior fellow of the military, veterans and society program at the Center for a New American Security, said the Pentagon would wait to see the outcome of the presidential election before carrying out major troop movements.

“I think the lesson we all should have learned after four years is the president’s conception of his powers doesn’t go anywhere beyond his enjoyment of having an expanded Twitter presence,” he said. “We’ve become so inured to these kind of kneejerk attempts to win the news cycle that nobody will be talking about this 48 hours from now.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/08/donald-trump-afghanistan-us-troops-taliban

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2023, 04:38:08 AM »


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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2023, 06:13:42 PM »
Hopefully RFK runs as a third party candidate after he gets cheated by the Dems in the same way Bernie was cheated.   ABC news is already censoring his interviews.  Unreal.  The leftist media is deciding what RFK should be allowed to say.  Nevertheless, RFK is surging in the polls as the bottom drops out for Old Joe.

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2023, 03:12:48 AM »
Republicans want to tell you how to live your lives. That's big government overreach.

Book bans and restrictions are a losing issue for Republicans
https://www.businessinsider.com/book-banning-in-america-losing-issue-for-republicans-2023-2

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2023, 01:29:13 PM »
Republicans want to tell you how to live your lives. That's big government overreach.

Book bans and restrictions are a losing issue for Republicans
https://www.businessinsider.com/book-banning-in-america-losing-issue-for-republicans-2023-2

Yes, it's the republicans who want big government.  LOL.  Like it was the republicans who wanted to "defund" the police after the George Floyd incident.  Oh yeah, the republicans also want an open border.  And the republicans.....it's all Trump's fault.  Baghdad Bob strikes again. 

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2023, 01:29:13 PM »