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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #568 on: July 23, 2023, 12:47:29 AM »
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I guess Mr. Myttons position is that as long as there was one WC test of one person who fired a rifle and the paraffin test was negative on cheeks, that any other multiple testing that shows that it’s a HIGH probability of a positive test result , is irrelevant ?

There was one old guy in the CBS time trial shooting experiment, who was able ( according to Dan Rathers commentary,) to score 3 hits on the target in a time of only 5.1 secs. The shooter did not get a head shot though.

So since it’s apparently possible that one person was able to shoot the MC rifle 3 times while aiming fairly accurately in only 5.1 secs, should we conclude therefore that it’s not that improbable that Oswald could have shot even faster than that because Oswald practiced with the rifle more than any of the CBS shooters did?

Or should we judge according to probability of the whole group of shooters and including the expert shooters who had difficulty with MC rifle bolt operation who all FAILED on their first attempts , to  get 2 hits with 1 being a head shot, and after something like 33 attempts they finally managed to get their time down to something like 6-7 secs?




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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #569 on: July 23, 2023, 03:53:22 AM »
I guess Mr. Myttons position is that as long as there was one WC test of one person who fired a rifle and the paraffin test was negative on cheeks, that any other multiple testing that shows that it’s a HIGH probability of a positive test result , is irrelevant ?

I usually take you to be an intelligent young man so I don't understand why you're being deliberately obtuse?

So let me take this slowly, Oswald's rifle was exclusively ballistically linked to the 3 shells in the sniper's nest and the two fragments discovered in Kennedy's Limo and the other random rifle was a decades old military surplus rifle with an unknown history. Do you understand the fundamental difference in what is being scientifically analysed?
And furthermore do you honestly believe it's fair to the grieving Kennedy family to forensically study any other rifle than what was used on the afternoon of the 22nd??











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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #569 on: July 23, 2023, 03:53:22 AM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #570 on: July 23, 2023, 05:04:31 AM »
Like “Mytton” knows what was used on the afternoon of the 22nd.

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #571 on: August 04, 2023, 04:43:28 PM »
We may never know the real identities of the two-assailants responsible for Mr. Tippit's demise, or the nefarious reasons for the events that unfolded at 10th & Patton. The wrongly-accused wasn't there.

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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #572 on: August 04, 2023, 08:23:41 PM »
We may never know the real identities of the two-assailants responsible for Mr. Tippit's demise, or the nefarious reasons for the events that unfolded at 10th & Patton. The wrongly-accused wasn't there.

There is nothing to suggest Tippit was killed by "two-assailants".

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« Reply #573 on: August 04, 2023, 08:36:08 PM »
There is nothing to suggest Tippit was killed by "two-assailants".

Nothing we know, right?

Has there ever been an investigation into a 2 men scenario that came up empty, so we can discard that possibility?

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #574 on: August 06, 2023, 06:00:16 AM »
There are basically 2 choices (it seems to me) for CT regarding the Tippit shooting.
1.Oswald did it
2. Someone else whom witnesses thought resembled Oswald did it.

If no.1, it’s kind of difficult to offer paranoia  as a defense  because of the fact that Oswald is recorded on camera saying he did NOT shoot ANYBODY.

So that forces a CT to have to defend a liar and justify the lie also with the same explanation that Oswald was acting out of paranoia of being set up when he shot Tippit 4 times with  the last shot point blank in the head.

It’s a lot easier with 2. because now Oswald stating he did not shoot anyone is more likely true.

However, it’s difficult to work out why Oswald would have been in Brewers store if he had gone directly from his boarding room to the Texas theater.

Or, if the imposter Oswald who had shot Tippet went to Brewers store, then he AND Oswald were in the theater when the DPD arrived and the imposter was able to escape?

And why did Oswald supposedly pull out a revolver when DPD officer McDonald approached him, if Oswald had done nothing but decided to go directly from house to theater to see a movie? 

So  no.2 is kind of a problem too, because it leads to theory of an  imposter whom was intentionally setting up Oswald and thus stopped onto Brewers store to try to get attention and to be seen entering the Texas theater, and then the imposter able to give the revolver he had used to Oswald?

Or if the revolver were just placed under Oswald’s seat unbeknownst to Oswald then the McDonald version of the encounter is totally fabricated and other officers present also blatantly lied?



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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #575 on: August 06, 2023, 10:36:10 PM »
There are basically 2 choices (it seems to me) for CT regarding the Tippit shooting.
1.Oswald did it
2. Someone else whom witnesses thought resembled Oswald did it.

If no.1, it’s kind of difficult to offer paranoia  as a defense  because of the fact that Oswald is recorded on camera saying he did NOT shoot ANYBODY.

So that forces a CT to have to defend a liar and justify the lie also with the same explanation that Oswald was acting out of paranoia of being set up when he shot Tippit 4 times with  the last shot point blank in the head.

It’s a lot easier with 2. because now Oswald stating he did not shoot anyone is more likely true.

However, it’s difficult to work out why Oswald would have been in Brewers store if he had gone directly from his boarding room to the Texas theater.

Or, if the imposter Oswald who had shot Tippet went to Brewers store, then he AND Oswald were in the theater when the DPD arrived and the imposter was able to escape?

And why did Oswald supposedly pull out a revolver when DPD officer McDonald approached him, if Oswald had done nothing but decided to go directly from house to theater to see a movie? 

So  no.2 is kind of a problem too, because it leads to theory of an  imposter whom was intentionally setting up Oswald and thus stopped onto Brewers store to try to get attention and to be seen entering the Texas theater, and then the imposter able to give the revolver he had used to Oswald?

Or if the revolver were just placed under Oswald’s seat unbeknownst to Oswald then the McDonald version of the encounter is totally fabricated and other officers present also blatantly lied?


So that forces a CT to have to defend a liar and justify the lie also with the same explanation that Oswald was acting out of paranoia of being set up when he shot Tippit 4 times with  the last shot point blank in the
head.


What did did Dom Benavides say that he saw when he looked up after the last shot......   Did he say anything about seeing the killer standing over Tippit?    Please check what an eye witness said that he saw.....

Where does this crap about the killer shooting Tippit in the head come from???

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« Reply #575 on: August 06, 2023, 10:36:10 PM »