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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #440 on: June 20, 2023, 02:45:36 PM »
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I don't know what their intention was, but a few dollar bills isn't quite the same as a vital piece of evidence in the case against Oswald, don't you think?

But you keep on going on about the photo and the exhibit and ignore the memo written on 11/29/63 by W.D. Griffith, to Mr. Conrad and several other high ranking FBI officials, which says that ASAC Dallas Kyle G. Clark has learned from the DPD that they forgot to photograph Oswald's wallet and it's content. They (the DPD) request that they be furnished with photographs of those items.

According to the memo, the wallet contained photographs of Oswald, his wife and a baby, as well as various Civil Service, Social Security and other identification cards. What isn't mentioned is a fake Hidell ID card.

Do you think that it is possible that “various…and other identification cards” just might include the fake ID? It certainly could in my opinion. There is no reason that it needed to be specifically singled out and specified. “Various” and “other” certainly could describe it without specifically specifying it by the Hidell name. So in my opinion this, memo amounts to nothing at all that could be used to positively say the fake ID wasn’t there.

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #441 on: June 20, 2023, 03:02:47 PM »
Do you think that it is possible that “various…and other identification cards” just might include the fake ID? It certainly could in my opinion. There is no reason that it needed to be specifically singled out and specified. “Various” and “other” certainly could describe it without specifically specifying it by the Hidell name. So in my opinion this, memo amounts to nothing at all that could be used to positively say the fake ID wasn’t there.

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Exactly Charles! Well done!

"other identification cards" =  "Hidell ID"

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #442 on: June 20, 2023, 03:13:36 PM »
Do you think that it is possible that “various…and other identification cards” just might include the fake ID? It certainly could in my opinion. There is no reason that it needed to be specifically singled out and specified. “Various” and “other” certainly could describe it without specifically specifying it by the Hidell name. So in my opinion this, memo amounts to nothing at all that could be used to positively say the fake ID wasn’t there.

In this case anything seems to be possible.

So in my opinion this, memo amounts to nothing at all that could be used to positively say the fake ID wasn’t there.

Of course not. How can you positively prove that something wasn't there?

By itself the memo isn't conclusive, that's true, but there is more circumstantial evidence that suggests the Hidell ID wasn't in Oswald's wallet. Paul Bentley, who took the wallet from Oswald, never ever mentioned having seen a Hidell ID in that wallet. The other three officers didn't mention a ID in a different name than Oswald either, for 6 months, until two of them (Hill and Carroll) suddenly started to vaguely "remember" hearing something about it. DPD forgot to photograph the wallet and it's content.

All this suggestes that the fake Hidell ID either wasn't a vital piece of evidence to the DPD or, alternatively, it simply wasn't there when Oswald was arrested.

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« Reply #443 on: June 20, 2023, 03:14:50 PM »
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Exactly Charles! Well done!

"other identification cards" =  "Hidell ID"

JohnM

Some people are so desperate to keep their questionable narrative alive that they will jump to any conclusion based on no evidence whatsoever.

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #444 on: June 20, 2023, 03:39:11 PM »
Some people are so desperate to keep their questionable narrative alive that they will jump to any conclusion based on no evidence whatsoever.

Sorry Martin.

It means that there was no conspiracy and no "questionable narrative" or no "Law enforcement grapevine" and no "Group think psyche"LOL
And most importantly nobody lied in their testimony, they all simply told the truth.

But do keep desperately trying to discover your very own "questionable narrative"! Hahahahaha.

JohnM
« Last Edit: June 20, 2023, 03:50:17 PM by John Mytton »

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #445 on: June 20, 2023, 04:01:06 PM »
Sorry Martin.

It means that there was no conspiracy and no "questionable narrative" or no "Law enforcement grapevine" and no "Group think psyche"LOL
And most importantly nobody lied in their testimony, they all simply told the truth.

But do keep desperately trying to discover your very own "questionable narrative"! Hahahahaha.

JohnM

It means that there was no conspiracy and no "questionable narrative" or no "Law enforcement grapevine" and no "Group think psyche"LOL
And most importantly nobody lied in their testimony, they all simply told the truth.


All in your humble opinion of course, right?

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #446 on: June 20, 2023, 04:23:02 PM »
It means that there was no conspiracy and no "questionable narrative" or no "Law enforcement grapevine" and no "Group think psyche"LOL
And most importantly nobody lied in their testimony, they all simply told the truth.


All in your humble opinion of course, right?

Well yeah, based on the evidence there was no conspiracy and on the previous page you just said you've never once claimed there was a conspiracy, we agree, so what's the problem?

JohnM
« Last Edit: June 20, 2023, 04:25:06 PM by John Mytton »

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #447 on: June 20, 2023, 04:23:37 PM »
Sorry Martin.

It means that there was no conspiracy and no "questionable narrative" or no "Law enforcement grapevine" and no "Group think psyche"LOL
And most importantly nobody lied in their testimony, they all simply told the truth.

But do keep desperately trying to discover your very own "questionable narrative"! Hahahahaha.

JohnM
"No evidence whatsoever." This was always going to be the end of this, the result. He won't say the evidence is inconclusive or not persuasive or questionable. No, he dismisses it completely.

Years and years of this method: say the evidence was "possibly" faked, make impossible demands about proving its authenticity, raise the "chain of custody" complaint (boy, they do like this one; it sounds so smart), and then wave it all away as "no evidence whatsoever."

Classic conspiracy thinking. RFK, Jr. is going around using this approach on the vaccines. He is quite, well, insane.

« Last Edit: June 20, 2023, 04:32:38 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »

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« Reply #447 on: June 20, 2023, 04:23:37 PM »