Who Killed J.D. Tippit?

[Zeon Mason]

Jack Tatums statement of observing the shooter (whom he thought was Oswald),  shooting 3 shots, then hesitating, then walking around the squad car to shoot a final 4th shot, which was a fatal head shot.

In my opinion , shooting a person already laying in the ground from close range , inflicting a head  wound qualifies the phrase “ shooting point blank”.

Now maybe Tatum is making up this story, (because it’s not corroborated by Markam who seems to remember only 3 shots), but it could also be true, because Calloway claims hearing FIVE shots and there were supposedly( if we can believe the finding shells evidence) FOUR spent shells found at the Tippet scene.

So the “evidence” (if true) is

1. 4 spent shells found allegedly matched to the type used by the revolver that is said to be recovered from Oswald’s hand in the the Texas theater.
2. Jack Tatums account of the event which had Oswald (or similar looking person) delivering a final 4th shot at Tippit laying on the ground.
3. The autopsy wounds indicating verification of a fatal head wound from the type bullet projectile fired from the type revolver taken from Oswald’s hand in the Texas theater.

So what I’m saying is : IF the above are true then the only viable option for a CT is to go with a theory that some other person whom resembled Oswald must have done the shooting BECAUSE of Jack Tatums account of the overly dramatic ( and unnecessary ) 4th fatal shot to the head, which  is NOT the action of a paranoid Oswald, but instead, the action of some other person with other intentions, one of which may be setting up Oswald, because of the shooters similar appearance per the eyewitness.

Then MAYBE there is some plausibility of an imposter leading the police to the the theater, but it’s still a problematic thing getting the revolver into Oswald’s hand without resorting to claiming DOD office McDonald was a liar.

If Walt Cakebread has some other alternative then please suggest what it may be.

[John Iacoletti]

We already know that McDonald was a liar.  But in this case, it's not even necessary to posit that, because how would McDonald know that the gun he initialed in the personnel office hours later was the same gun?

[Richard Smith]

There are basically 2 choices (it seems to me) for CT regarding the Tippit shooting.
1.Oswald did it
2. Someone else whom witnesses thought resembled Oswald did it.

If no.1, it’s kind of difficult to offer paranoia  as a defense  because of the fact that Oswald is recorded on camera saying he did NOT shoot ANYBODY.

So that forces a CT to have to defend a liar and justify the lie also with the same explanation that Oswald was acting out of paranoia of being set up when he shot Tippit 4 times with  the last shot point blank in the head.

It’s a lot easier with 2. because now Oswald stating he did not shoot anyone is more likely true.

However, it’s difficult to work out why Oswald would have been in Brewers store if he had gone directly from his boarding room to the Texas theater.

Or, if the imposter Oswald who had shot Tippet went to Brewers store, then he AND Oswald were in the theater when the DPD arrived and the imposter was able to escape?

And why did Oswald supposedly pull out a revolver when DPD officer McDonald approached him, if Oswald had done nothing but decided to go directly from house to theater to see a movie? 

So  no.2 is kind of a problem too, because it leads to theory of an  imposter whom was intentionally setting up Oswald and thus stopped onto Brewers store to try to get attention and to be seen entering the Texas theater, and then the imposter able to give the revolver he had used to Oswald?

Or if the revolver were just placed under Oswald’s seat unbeknownst to Oswald then the McDonald version of the encounter is totally fabricated and other officers present also blatantly lied?

How unlucky can one guy be?  JFK was assassinated from Oswald's place of work.  Oswald decides to knock off for the day instead of hanging around like everyone else.  Instead he decides to go the movies.  And he just happens to pass the only scene of the shooting of a DPD officer that would occur within a period of several years.  He also looks so much like the shooter that multiple witnesses will later ID him as being present at the scene with a gun.  And unlucky again!  Oswald has decided for some unknown reason to carry his gun to the movies.  Instead of buying a ticket like a normal person, he decides to sneak into the theatre.  He is acting to suspiciously that he draws the attention of random citizens.  When the police approach him, instead of waiting to learn what they want, he decides to pull his gun and engage in a struggle.  When he is searched, he has the same exact two different brands of ammo in his possession that the shooter used to kill Tippit.  What are the odds?  So unlucky.  There is so much evidence against him that CTers can only conclude he is innocent.

[Alan J. Ford]

There is nothing to suggest Tippit was killed by "two-assailants".

Good morning, Mr. Brown

You are one of the few LNs that I genuinely have developed respect for since my initial foray into JFK Assassination Research way back in May, 2014. I've always respected your genuine patriotism and love for your country. Now, that said, after the following post I do not care to discuss this with you any further, because again I respect you, one of the few LNs I believe who truly believes in the institution of government. Where some may find that gullible on your part, I only see it as a patriot who believes all men/women in positions of power embody your same sense of integrity.

Now, there are more than a few eyewitnesses that afternoon who saw multiple assailants ambushing Mr. Tippit. I will only share one of those few instances, because again I'm not going to debate this with you, argue with you, etc. Please read the following link, Mr. Brown, and take it for what it's worth...

https://thegrio.com/2013/11/21/acquilla-clemons-the-black-witness-the-warren-commission-ignored/

Again, this will be my only response to you on this matter, because you have struck me (since May, 2014 when I initially came on the scene bearing a Charlton Heston Ben Hur driven chariot as my avatar) as a man who truly loves his country and wouldn't think other men would ever make a choice to betray our Republic. Bunch of lying treasonous cowards.

Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder. -- George Washington


Godspeed, Mr. Brown, best wishes to you & yours sir.

The wrongly-accused did Not shoot anybody. Anybody.

[John Iacoletti]

How unlucky can one guy be?  JFK was assassinated from Oswald's place of work.

Lots of people worked there.  Nor do you "know" JFK was assassinated from there.

  Oswald decides to knock off for the day instead of hanging around like everyone else.

At least 14 other employees didn't return after the motorcade.

  Instead he decides to go the movies.

Other people went to the movies.  Are they "unlucky" too?

  And he just happens to pass the only scene of the shooting of a DPD officer that would occur within a period of several years.

This is false.  It was the only cop killed -- not the only shooting.

  He also looks so much like the shooter that multiple witnesses will later ID him as being present at the scene with a gun.

Unfair, biased lineups and a single photo identified months later are unreliable.

And unlucky again!  Oswald has decided for some unknown reason to carry his gun to the movies.

If true, does that somehow prove he shot the president with a rifle?

  Instead of buying a ticket like a normal person, he decides to sneak into the theatre.

Nobody saw him enter the theater.  Julia Postal told both Brewer and the FBI that she wasn't sure if she sold him a ticket or not.  Again, is this supposed to be evidence of murder?

  He is acting to suspiciously that he draws the attention of random citizens.

This is "Richard"-speak for "he looked funny to a shoe salesman".  Again, not evidence of murder.

  When the police approach him, instead of waiting to learn what they want, he decides to pull his gun and engage in a struggle.

Nobody in the theater (most notably McDonald himself) testified that Oswald "pulled a gun".  The police had no probable cause to search anybody or arrest them for murder.

  When he is searched, he has the same exact two different brands of ammo in his possession that the shooter used to kill Tippit.

False.  What was "found" in a search done hours after he had been arrested and already searched was Winchester shells.

  What are the odds?

What are the odds that "Richard" will misrepresent evidence?  Astronomical.

[Richard Smith]

Love the way you refute Mr "Smith" point by point, Mr. I......  And If I were Mr. "Smith" I'd be embarrassed to appear to be such a dumbass.

LOL.  Nothing was refuted.  When I note that Oswald worked in the building from which JFK was assassinated AND passed the scene of the only murder of a DPD within a several year span it is "refuted" because other people worked in the building.  HA HA HA.  Of course, OTHER people worked in the TSBD.  But how many of them passed the scene of the Tippit murder that day?  None.  How many of them were identified by witnesses as being the gunman at the Tippit murder scene?  None other than Oswald.  How many of them were arrested with a gun in their possession within about an hour of the assassination?  None other than Oswald.  How many of them had the exact same two brands of ammo in their possession that were used to murder Tippit?  None other than unlucky Ozzie.  How many TSBD employees went to the movies and snuck in without buying a ticket?  None other than Oswald.  How many TSBD employees resisted arrest and tried to pull his gun when approached by the police instead of waiting to find out what they wanted?  None other than Oswald.  See any common theme?  Let me help.  The ONLY person present at all these events is named O-S-W-A-L-D.  Not any other person who worked in the TSBD or went to the movies that day is involved.  Just ONE guy.  Over and over again.

[Martin Weidmann]

LOL.  Nothing was refuted.  When I note that Oswald worked in the building from which JFK was assassinated AND passed the scene of the only murder of a DPD within a several year span it is "refuted" because other people worked in the building.  HA HA HA.  Of course, OTHER people worked in the TSBD.  But how many of them passed the scene of the Tippit murder that day?  None.  How many of them were identified by witnesses as being the gunman at the Tippit murder scene?  None other than Oswald.  How many of them were arrested with a gun in their possession within about an hour of the assassination?  None other than Oswald.  How many of them had the exact same two brands of ammo in their possession that were used to murder Tippit?  None other than unlucky Ozzie.  How many TSBD employees went to the movies and snuck in without buying a ticket?  None other than Oswald.  How many TSBD employees resisted arrest and tried to pull his gun when approached by the police instead of waiting to find out what they wanted?  None other than Oswald.  See any common theme?  Let me help.  The ONLY person present at all these events is named O-S-W-A-L-D.  Not any other person who worked in the TSBD or went to the movies that day is involved.  Just ONE guy.  Over and over again.

See any common theme?

Yes, you keep repeating claims made as part of the official narrative that may or may not be true.

Just ONE guy.

Are you talking about the guy who was brought out at the front entrance of the Texas Theater or the one who was seen to be escorted by police at the back?

[John Iacoletti]

Of course, OTHER people worked in the TSBD.  But how many of them passed the scene of the Tippit murder that day?  None. 

How could you possibly know that? Oh yeah, you don’t. You don’t even know that Oswald did. Not that any of this tells you a thing about who killed JFK.

How many of them were identified by witnesses as being the gunman at the Tippit murder scene?  None other than Oswald. 

How many of them were trotted into an unfair, biased lineup? None other than Oswald.

How many of them were arrested with a gun in their possession within about an hour of the assassination?

Is that supposed to have something to do with JFK?

How many of them had the exact same two brands of ammo in their possession that were used to murder Tippit? 

Still false, no matter how many times you repeat it.

By the way, what were the two most common makers of .38 ammunition, by far?

How many TSBD employees went to the movies and snuck in without buying a ticket? 

If Julia Postal wasn’t sure about this, then how is “Richard”? And again, what does this have to do with JFK?

How many TSBD employees resisted arrest and tried to pull his gun when approached by the police

You don’t know what he “tried to do”.

See any common theme?

Yes. The common theme is that “Richard” spews a bunch of false, unrelated, or unsubstantiated claims and thinks that they are evidence for who killed Kennedy.