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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #72 on: July 06, 2023, 01:30:09 AM »
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It’s one of your usual loaded questions. As I pointed out ages ago, you have failed to show that Oswald ever used Hidell as an alias for himself. You just assumed that he did, and then invented a massive conspiracy as the only alternative. The only “effort” required is for somebody like you to write up a paragraph containing a fallacious argument.

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and then invented a massive conspiracy as the only alternative.

Thanks John, that's it in a nutshell. I asked for you and any other member, to essentially provide an alternative to a conspiracy and so far you and team conspiracy are failing miserably.

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #72 on: July 06, 2023, 01:30:09 AM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #73 on: July 06, 2023, 01:41:14 AM »
“Failing” defined as not fitting your false dichotomy?

The alternative is that Hidell was not Lee Oswald. No massive conspiracy necessary. Particularly when there is very little reason to assume that Hidell was Lee Oswald.

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #74 on: July 06, 2023, 01:59:46 AM »
The alternative is that Hidell was not Lee Oswald. No massive conspiracy necessary. Particularly when there is very little reason to assume that Hidell was Lee Oswald.

Oh, so there was another "Hidell" who wrote with the same style and structure as Oswald and had his mail directed to Oswald's PO BOX?
And also ordered rifles to Oswald's PO Box
And also ordered revolvers to Oswald's PO Box
And also had Identification made up with Oswald's photo
And also made Oswald carry the Hidell ID
And also stored the negatives that created the Hidell ID in the Paine garage
And also made Law enforcement lie to say Oswald admitted carrying the Hidell ID

And logically by extension, since nothing needed altering or planting, this means that the Hidell rifle order for C2766 was legitimate and was sent to Oswald's PO Box! Thumb1:




Btw I can now understand why you kept this fanciful revelation safely hidden away. HILARIOUS!

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« Last Edit: July 06, 2023, 02:38:46 AM by John Mytton »

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #74 on: July 06, 2023, 01:59:46 AM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #75 on: July 06, 2023, 05:02:59 AM »
Oh, so there was another "Hidell" who wrote with the same style and structure as Oswald and had his mail directed to Oswald's PO BOX?
And also ordered rifles to Oswald's PO Box
And also ordered revolvers to Oswald's PO Box
And also had Identification made up with Oswald's photo
And also made Oswald carry the Hidell ID
And also stored the negatives that created the Hidell ID in the Paine garage
And also made Law enforcement lie to say Oswald admitted carrying the Hidell ID

Yawn, another strawman.

Stop this desperate shifting the burden act. You can either prove Oswald used Hidell as an alias for himself or you cannot. And you cannot. Nobody has to prove your silly made-up vast conspiracy in order for you to be wrong.

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And logically by extension, since nothing needed altering or planting, this means that the Hidell rifle order for C2766 was legitimate and was sent to Oswald's PO Box! Thumb1:

You wouldn’t know “logic” if it bit you in the azz. And you still have no evidence that C2766 or any other rifle was “sent to Oswald’s PO box”.

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #76 on: July 06, 2023, 05:31:07 AM »
Stop this desperate shifting the burden act.

Sorry John, but you not me made the following poorly thought out claim and now after I pointed out the massive flaws in your logic, you are back pedalling real fast.

The alternative is that Hidell was not Lee Oswald.

Any more bright ideas? LOL!!!

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #76 on: July 06, 2023, 05:31:07 AM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #77 on: July 06, 2023, 03:20:44 PM »
Sorry John, but you not me made the following poorly thought out claim and now after I pointed out the massive flaws in your logic, you are back pedalling real fast.

That’s not a “claim”. You insisted that there was no other alternative. That’s an alternative. You’re so desperate to shift the burden that you can’t tell the difference.

You didn’t point out any “massive flaws” — you just rattled off your usual list of unsubstantiated claims.
 
What makes you think your “alternative” is any “brighter”?
« Last Edit: July 06, 2023, 03:22:58 PM by John Iacoletti »

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #78 on: July 06, 2023, 03:47:43 PM »
Sorry John, but you not me made the following poorly thought out claim and now after I pointed out the massive flaws in your logic, you are back pedalling real fast.

Any more bright ideas? LOL!!!

JohnM

Imagine the coincidence that someone using the same name that Oswald used as an alias ordering a rifle to be delivered to his PO Box without that being part of a conspiracy to frame Oswald! And that rifle having the same serial number as the one left at the TSBD.  Comedy gold.  LOL.  No one can believe that is what these contrarians loons are peddling.  They recognize the absurdity of the conspiracy narrative.  So they don't want to acknowledge or defend it but they are clearly implying a massive conspiracy to assassinate JFK, frame Oswald for the crime using fabricated evidence that derives from numerous different sources over a period of years, and then also implicate him in the Walker attempt and Tippit murders. 
« Last Edit: July 06, 2023, 03:48:33 PM by Richard Smith »

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #79 on: July 06, 2023, 04:52:13 PM »
Imagine the coincidence that someone using the same name that Oswald used as an alias ordering a rifle to be delivered to his PO Box without that being part of a conspiracy to frame Oswald!

Except you forgot to actually demonstrate that Oswald ever used Hidell as an alias for himself.

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And that rifle having the same serial number as the one left at the TSBD. 

Imagine how hard it is for anybody to handwrite a number on a piece of paper. So hard that it must require a massive conspiracy. Therefore Oswald killed Kennedy.

Speaking of comedy gold…

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Re: Is the amount of effort to link Oswald to Hidell believable?
« Reply #79 on: July 06, 2023, 04:52:13 PM »