Did Marina have a reason to claim the MC rifle belonged to Lee?

[Martin Weidmann]

You questioned the conclusion that Oswald didn't complain about not receiving his rifle.  That seems to imply that you believe there is a viability possibility that he did complain about it.  Is that the case that you think there is a realistic possibility that Oswald didn't receive the rifle and then complained to Klein's or not?  I've pointed out that the FBI and Klein's searched the records on Nov. 22 to confirm that a specific rifle was sent to him.  Therefore, if Oswald did not receive the rifle and complained, Klein's would have been in on the coverup from the very beginning.  That is a necessary and direct implication of your argument that there is a possibility that he never received the rifle.  It is impossible to sort out a logical narrative in which Klein's was not involved in the conspiracy to kill JFK under the known timeline of events in your absurd fantasy that Oswald did not receive the rifle.

You questioned the conclusion that Oswald didn't complain about not receiving his rifle. 

Who concluded that?

I've pointed out that the FBI and Klein's searched the records on Nov. 22 to confirm that a specific rifle was sent to him.

Yes, you pointed that out and you were wrong. On November 22 the FBI determined who ordered the rifle, not that it was sent.

your absurd fantasy that Oswald did not receive the rifle.

You are getting ahead of yourself again. I can not claim that Oswald did or didn't receive the rifle, when there is no evidence that a rifle was actually sent in the first place.

[Richard Smith]

You questioned the conclusion that Oswald didn't complain about not receiving his rifle. 

Who concluded that?

This is real simple. I said that Oswald didn't complain to Klein's about not receiving the rifle ordered.  You questioned that statement.  That implies that you believe that there is a realistic possibility that Oswald did complain to Klein's about not receiving his rifle.  Is that your position or not?  You seem to think that upon receiving an order and payment for a rifle that there is some mystery about what Klein's would do in the absence of some shipping confirmation.  They were a mail order business.  It is obvious that upon receiving an order, that they would ship the item to that person.  If for some reason that person didn't receive the rifle (as you seem to imply was possible), that person would complain to them.  There is not a scintilla of evidence that Oswald complained to anyone about not receiving a rifle. To the contrary, his wife confirms he obtained a rifle in this timeframe, there are pictures of him holding a rifle, the DPD indicates his print was on a rifle, that rifle was found at Oswald's place of employment, and that rifle had the SAME serial number as one Klein's indicates was sent to his PO Box. 

[Richard Smith]

Mr. BELIN. Is there a date of shipment which appears on this microfilm
record?
Mr. WALDMAN. Yes, the date of shipment was March 20,1963.
Mr. BELIN. Does it show by what means it was shipped?
Mr. WALDMAN. It was shipped by parcel post as indicated by this circle
around the letters “PP.”

[Martin Weidmann]

This is real simple. I said that Oswald didn't complain to Klein's about not receiving the rifle ordered.  You questioned that statement.  That implies that you believe that there is a realistic possibility that Oswald did complain to Klein's about not receiving his rifle.  Is that your position or not?  You seem to think that upon receiving an order and payment for a rifle that there is some mystery about what Klein's would do in the absence of some shipping confirmation.  They were a mail order business.  It is obvious that upon receiving an order, that they would ship the item to that person.  If for some reason that person didn't receive the rifle (as you seem to imply was possible), that person would complain to them.  There is not a scintilla of evidence that Oswald complained to anyone about not receiving a rifle. To the contrary, his wife confirms he obtained a rifle in this timeframe, there are pictures of him holding a rifle, the DPD indicates his print was on a rifle, that rifle was found at Oswald's place of employment, and that rifle had the SAME serial number as one Klein's indicates was sent to his PO Box.

You questioned that statement.

I question every statement you make.

You seem to think that upon receiving an order and payment for a rifle that there is some mystery about what Klein's would do in the absence of some shipping confirmation.  They were a mail order business.  It is obvious that upon receiving an order, that they would ship the item to that person.

Except the item ordered was no longer in stock

There is not a scintilla of evidence that Oswald complained to anyone about not receiving a rifle.

There is not a scintilla of evidence that a rifle was actually sent. Waldman saying that "PP" written on a form means that it was shipped isn't evidence, and Waldman did not have first hand knowledge of the shipment and thus could only make an assumption.

his wife confirms he obtained a rifle in this timeframe

Repeating a lie doesn't somehow make it become true

that rifle had the SAME serial number as one Klein's indicates was sent to his PO Box.

Kleins' indicated no such thing. Waldman did and that was an assumption based on a handwritten number on a photocopy of an internal document.

[Martin Weidmann]

Mr. BELIN. Is there a date of shipment which appears on this microfilm
record?
Mr. WALDMAN. Yes, the date of shipment was March 20,1963.
Mr. BELIN. Does it show by what means it was shipped?
Mr. WALDMAN. It was shipped by parcel post as indicated by this circle
around the letters “PP.”

Exactly what I said; Waldman, who had no first hand knowledge and nothing to do with gun sales is reading a photocopy of a document and telling Belin what some handwritten markings mean.

In no way is this a conclusive confirmation of a rifle having actually been sent.

[Richard Smith]

Exactly what I said; Waldman, who had no first hand knowledge and nothing to do with gun sales is reading a photocopy of a document and telling Belin what some handwritten markings mean.

In no way is this a conclusive confirmation of a rifle having actually been sent.

LOL.  He is confirming in his capacity of as the VP of Klein's the contents of a document that Klein's generated which confirms the rifle was shipped.  Exactly what you said was missing.  Now you are on to it being faked etc.  The endless circle of contrarian lunacy.

[Martin Weidmann]

LOL.  He is confirming in his capacity of as the VP of Klein's the contents of a document that Klein's generated which confirms the rifle was shipped.  Exactly what you said was missing.  Now you are on to it being faked etc.  The endless circle of contrarian lunacy.

He can "confirm" the content of a document as much as he wants. He had no first hand knowledge, no involvement in gun sales and relied purely on what a photocopy of an unauthenticated document said. Anybody can write the letters "PP" on a document. It's not proof of shipment, no matter how much you want it to be. 

[Richard Smith]

He can "confirm" the content of a document as much as he wants. He had no first hand knowledge, no involvement in gun sales and relied purely on what a photocopy of an unauthenticated document said. Anybody can write the letters "PP" on a document. It's not proof of shipment, no matter how much you want it to be.

Do you realize how insane that is?  This is a document generated by Klein's as part of their routine business records.  Not just anybody.  Waldmann was VP of the company that sold guns but he had no "involvement in gun sales"?  He has knowledge of the records that they kept.  Those records confirmed that a specific rifle was sent to Oswald's PO Box.  That is why he is testifying.  He is the guy who knows what the documents mean.  The only way that this doesn't prove that the rifle was sent to Oswald is if the documents are faked or manipulated.  And there is zero evidence of that.  You certainly have provided none.  The documentary evidence is conclusive of the fact.