Did Marina have a reason to claim the MC rifle belonged to Lee?

[John Iacoletti]

I'm not going to repeat myself. If you don't get that Waldman had no first hand knowledge of the shipment and was merely explaining what some handwritten remarks on a photocopy of an utterly unauthenticated internal document mean, then I can't help you.

"Richard" doesn't actually read or consider what is written in any responses.  He's a one-way propaganda machine.

"Business record".  LOL.  Where are the corresponding United States Postal Service "business records"?  If an issue came up, How would Klein's ever prove that somebody actually took this package to the post office?

[Martin Weidmann]

"Richard" doesn't actually read or consider what is written in any responses.  He's a one-way propaganda machine.

"Business record".  LOL.  Where are the corresponding United States Postal Service "business records"?  If an issue came up, How would Klein's ever prove that somebody actually took this package to the post office?

Well, let's see just how bad "Richard"'s ignorance really is.

Let's say, somebody steals "Richard"'s identity and uses it to order, out of pure malice, an item, via the internet, at a mail order company.
The mail order company then sends the item to the address on the order form and sends the bill, by e-mail, to "Richard".
He receives the bill and contacts the mail order company saying that he never ordered or received anything, to which the mail order company replies; "well, according to our business records" you have ordered and received the item. Would you like to see the internal document?"

Going by "Richard"'s so-called "logic" he would have no choice but to pay the bill, right? After all, the mail order's business records is conclusive proof of shipment, right?

[John Iacoletti]

Let’s go a step further and imagine that “Richard” dies in an unfortunate incident at the police station prior to the bill being send out, and his widow contacts the company, because she didn’t know anything about the order and they say, well “Richard” must have picked it up because our “business records” have a PP stain on them. So pay up.

[John Mytton]

Let’s go a step further and imagine that “Richard” dies in an unfortunate incident at the police station prior to the bill being send out, and his widow contacts the company, because she didn’t know anything about the order and they say, well “Richard” must have picked it up because our “business records” have a PP stain on them. So pay up.

and imagine that “Richard” dies

Wow, talk about inappropriate, I don't particularly like some of my critics but I don't imagine their deaths.

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

Wow, talk about inappropriate, I don't particularly like some of my critics but I don't imagine their deaths.

It’s just an analogy — lighten up. But nice use of moral indignance to try to divert.

Besides, “Richard Smith” doesn’t actually exist.

[Richard Smith]

Well, let's see just how bad "Richard"'s ignorance really is.

Let's say, somebody steals "Richard"'s identity and uses it to order, out of pure malice, an item, via the internet, at a mail order company.
The mail order company then sends the item to the address on the order form and sends the bill, by e-mail, to "Richard".
He receives the bill and contacts the mail order company saying that he never ordered or received anything, to which the mail order company replies; "well, according to our business records" you have ordered and received the item. Would you like to see the internal document?"

Going by "Richard"'s so-called "logic" he would have no choice but to pay the bill, right? After all, the mail order's business records is conclusive proof of shipment, right?

What a stupid analogy to Oswald's situation.  The Klein's records indicate that the rifle in this instance was shipped TO OSWALD"S PO Box.  Not to someone else's address. Good grief. LOL.  You yourself argued that a mail order business would keep a record of their transactions in case there was an issue.  And it turns out Klein's did exactly that.  They kept a business record of the transaction confirming that they mailed a rifle to Oswald's PO Box on March 20.  Why would they not have mailed it to his address as you stupidly and baselessly imply?  Of course, this record is not the only evidence to confirm that Oswald received this rifle.  His own wife confirms he obtained a rifle in this timeframe.  The rifle shipped to his PO Box turns up in his place of employment.  It has the same serial number as the rifle sent to him by Klein's.  The DPD indicates that Oswald's print was left on that rifle.  There is no accounting for any other rifle belonging to Oswald in this timeframe.  He is pictured holding the rifle.  Experts confirm the rifle depicted in that photo is the same rifle found in the TSBD which is the same rifle that Klein's confirms was sent to Oswald's PO box.  The totality of evidence and circumstances here is conclusive of the fact that Oswald was sent and received a specific rifle.  The same one found at the TSBD on Nov. 22.

[Martin Weidmann]

What a stupid analogy to Oswald's situation.  The Klein's records indicate that the rifle in this instance was shipped TO OSWALD"S PO Box.  Not to someone else's address. Good grief. LOL.  You yourself argued that a mail order business would keep a record of their transactions in case there was an issue.  And it turns out Klein's did exactly that.  They kept a business record of the transaction confirming that they mailed a rifle to Oswald's PO Box on March 20.  Why would they not have mailed it to his address as you stupidly and baselessly imply?  Of course, this record is not the only evidence to confirm that Oswald received this rifle.  His own wife confirms he obtained a rifle in this timeframe.  The rifle shipped to his PO Box turns up in his place of employment.  It has the same serial number as the rifle sent to him by Klein's.  The DPD indicates that Oswald's print was left on that rifle.  There is no accounting for any other rifle belonging to Oswald in this timeframe.  He is pictured holding the rifle.  Experts confirm the rifle depicted in that photo is the same rifle found in the TSBD which is the same rifle that Klein's confirms was sent to Oswald's PO box.  The totality of evidence and circumstances here is conclusive of the fact that Oswald was sent and received a specific rifle.  The same one found at the TSBD on Nov. 22.

So many words, repeated as a broken record, and - as expected - no answer to my hypothetical question

[Richard Smith]

So many words, repeated as a broken record, and - as expected - no answer to my hypothetical question

You can tell when the contrarian brothers are running scared.  LOL.  Martin went on and on about how Klein's would have kept a business record of the shipment of the rifle.  And they did!  Now he is on to the record not proving a rifle was sent.  Imagine that scenario.  Klein's - a mail order business - receives an order for a rifle with a specific address.  Their records confirm that they process this order and even confirm the shipping date and method to that address.  Martin stupidly argues that this doesn't mean they shipped the rifle to that address.  His evidence for such?  None.  Would there be any logical reason for Klein's not to have shipped the rifle to the address designated on the order form?  Of course not.  What does Martin believe happened here?  We have no idea because he lives in a contrarian fantasy world where no fact that lends itself to Oswald's guilt can be acknowledged.  An order is received and processed as reflected in Klein's business records.  Oswald receives a rifle.  The rifle found at Oswald's place of employment is the same one shipped to him by Klein's.  But that is not sufficient in the delusional contrarian world to prove that Oswald was sent the rifle.