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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2023, 05:05:19 AM »
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“Established by plant growth”.

LOL.

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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2023, 05:28:09 AM »
“Established by plant growth”.

LOL.

Yawn! The plant to Oswald's left has shown considerable growth and if not planted in the meantime, the plant to Oswald's right has grown from virtually nothing and has lost all it's leaves.



Detective B. C. Brown standing in the back yard of 214 West Neely Street in Dallas, Texas 1963.


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« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2023, 03:29:19 PM »
Marina said lots of things that were either inaccurate or outright wrong. She also had a very poor memory it appears.

And lastly, she wouldn’t have been able to testify against her husband had he lived to stand trial.

This is a common CTer trope.  Marina certainly couldn't remember minor details of events or exact dates months after the fact.  Almost no one could.  It was only in retrospect that such details became important.  She also had an incentive to be vague about evidence incriminating Oswald.  She was subject to criticism that maybe she should have been a little more concerned with his activities and bears some responsibility for what happened by not reporting him.  To the extent that we know of any efforts by Marina to cover up evidence, it was to protect Oswald not incriminate him.  It borders on the incredible that CTers cite such incidents to suggest she was lying to incriminate Oswald. 

In terms of the Walker attempt, when her husband came home late at night and told her that he has just tried to assassinate someone, that is something to be remembered.  Just because Marina couldn't remember specific dates of minor events doesn't mean she had a poor memory or couldn't remember being told that Oswald tried to murder Walker.  The fact remains that Oswald confessed this crime to his own wife.  He did so before the public was aware of any such crime.  There were recon photos of the Walker house found in his possession to corroborate this story.  He left a note telling Marina what to do in the event of his arrest or death that night.  What was so dangerous that Oswald anticipated being killed or arrested for on that night?  His typing class?  This one is a slam dunk. 

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2023, 06:58:05 PM »
This is a common CTer trope.  Marina certainly couldn't remember minor details of events or exact dates months after the fact.  Almost no one could.  It was only in retrospect that such details became important.  She also had an incentive to be vague about evidence incriminating Oswald.  She was subject to criticism that maybe she should have been a little more concerned with his activities and bears some responsibility for what happened by not reporting him.  To the extent that we know of any efforts by Marina to cover up evidence, it was to protect Oswald not incriminate him.  It borders on the incredible that CTers cite such incidents to suggest she was lying to incriminate Oswald. 

In terms of the Walker attempt, when her husband came home late at night and told her that he has just tried to assassinate someone, that is something to be remembered.  Just because Marina couldn't remember specific dates of minor events doesn't mean she had a poor memory or couldn't remember being told that Oswald tried to murder Walker.  The fact remains that Oswald confessed this crime to his own wife.  He did so before the public was aware of any such crime.  There were recon photos of the Walker house found in his possession to corroborate this story.  He left a note telling Marina what to do in the event of his arrest or death that night.  What was so dangerous that Oswald anticipated being killed or arrested for on that night?  His typing class?  This one is a slam dunk.

If it was a "slam dunk" it would convince reasonable sane people. It doesn't!

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2023, 08:58:11 PM »
If it was a "slam dunk" it would convince reasonable sane people. It doesn't!

Check the history books. 

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« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2023, 09:10:12 PM »
He wasn't seen with a rifle at both events.

So, you agree that there is no evidence that puts C2766 in Oswald's hands at 12:30 on 11/22/63....  Thumb1:
You mean that there is no "direct" evidence that puts C2766 in Oswald's hands.  There is plenty of evidence. More than enough for a jury of reasonable people to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that Oswald fired three shots at the President's limousine with it.

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« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2023, 09:16:34 PM »
Yawn! The plant to Oswald's left has shown considerable growth and if not planted in the meantime, the plant to Oswald's right has grown from virtually nothing and has lost all it's leaves.

And this somehow gives you a precise date when the photo was taken. LOL.

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« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2023, 09:21:30 PM »
This is a common CTer trope.  Marina certainly couldn't remember minor details of events or exact dates months after the fact.  Almost no one could.  It was only in retrospect that such details became important.  She also had an incentive to be vague about evidence incriminating Oswald.  She was subject to criticism that maybe she should have been a little more concerned with his activities and bears some responsibility for what happened by not reporting him.  To the extent that we know of any efforts by Marina to cover up evidence, it was to protect Oswald not incriminate him.  It borders on the incredible that CTers cite such incidents to suggest she was lying to incriminate Oswald. 

In terms of the Walker attempt, when her husband came home late at night and told her that he has just tried to assassinate someone, that is something to be remembered.  Just because Marina couldn't remember specific dates of minor events doesn't mean she had a poor memory or couldn't remember being told that Oswald tried to murder Walker.  The fact remains that Oswald confessed this crime to his own wife.  He did so before the public was aware of any such crime.  There were recon photos of the Walker house found in his possession to corroborate this story.  He left a note telling Marina what to do in the event of his arrest or death that night.  What was so dangerous that Oswald anticipated being killed or arrested for on that night?  His typing class?  This one is a slam dunk.

This diatribe is “Richard”-speak, for “Marina was a liar, except when she wasn’t. And I the great “Richard”, know the difference.”

How could you possibly know that it’s a “fact” that Lee told her anything at all, much less “before the public was aware of any such crime”? Wouldn’t the precise timing of such a conversation be one of those “minor details remembered months after the fact”?
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