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Online Charles Collins

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #136 on: July 10, 2023, 05:35:38 PM »
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That's not a minor detail. Aside from that, she couldn't remember lots of other key details.

Initially, Marina claimed she prevented Lee from killing Nixon by locking him in the bathroom for hours. But that was implausible and she couldn't describe basic details about the incident to the Warren Commission:


Mr Rankin :Do you recall the bathroom, how the door closes? Does it close into the bathroom on Neely Street or from the outside in?

Mrs Oswald :I don’t remember now. I don’t remember. I only remember that it was something to do with the bathroom.

Mr Rankin :Did you lock him into the bathroom?

Mrs Oswald :I can’t remember precisely.

Mr Rankin :Do you recall how the locks were on the bathroom door there?

Mrs Oswald :I can’t recall. We had several apartments and I might be confusing one apartment with the other.

Mr Rankin :Is it your testimony that you made it impossible for him to get out if he wanted to?

Mrs Oswald :I don’t remember.

http://22november1963.org.uk/did-oswald-try-to-kill-richard-nixon

The lack of corroborating evidence and Marina's poor memory are two reasons to discount her claim about Lee confessing to attempting to kill Edwin Walker.

Maybe she mistook Walker for someone else the same way, according to you, she mistook Nixon for LBJ.


The lack of corroborating evidence and Marina's poor memory are two reasons to discount her claim about Lee confessing to attempting to kill Edwin Walker.

Why would you not consider that the note in Russian LHO reportedly left for Marina, The photographs of Walker’s home which were reportedly found among LHO’s belongings in Ruth Paine’s residence, the bullet recovered from Walker’s home, all as corroborating evidence of Marina’s sworn testimony? (The lame excuses that we are fixing to be subjected to are just plain silly.)

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #137 on: July 10, 2023, 06:18:03 PM »
“Richard” has no way of verifying that Marina was told anything before it was known to the public. He justs repeats a claim as if it’s a fact — just as he does with every unsubstantiated and uncorroborated claim that he likes.

And even if Lee did tell her something like this, she still has no firsthand knowledge that it’s actually true.

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« Reply #138 on: July 10, 2023, 06:34:06 PM »

The lack of corroborating evidence and Marina's poor memory are two reasons to discount her claim about Lee confessing to attempting to kill Edwin Walker.

Why would you not consider that the note in Russian LHO reportedly left for Marina, The photographs of Walker’s home which were reportedly found among LHO’s belongings in Ruth Paine’s residence, the bullet recovered from Walker’s home, all as corroborating evidence of Marina’s sworn testimony? (The lame excuses that we are fixing to be subjected to are just plain silly.)

- The note is undated and doesn't mention Walker. Which means it's worthless as evidence. I doubt it would've been admissible if Oswald went to trial for the Walker shooting. 

- The photograph of Walker's home was found in Ruth Paine's home after LHO's death. It can't be proven that Oswald took the photo or brought it to her home.

- Walker himself denied that the bullet in evidence is the bullet that was recovered from his home. He described a different bullet and the initial police reports described a 30 caliber bullet, not the type of bullet that was used with a Mannliche-Carcano.


I stand by my view that LHO wouldn't have been convicted for attempted murder in the Walker case if he lived to stand trial. Marina wouldn't have been able to testify against him and there's no direct evidence connecting him to the crime.
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« Reply #139 on: July 10, 2023, 06:40:31 PM »
She confused Nixon for LBJ because they were both VP. 

Marina herself disagrees with “Richard”:

Mrs. Oswald. The FBI suggested that possibly I was confused between Johnson and Nixon but there is no question that in this incident it was a question of Mr. Nixon. I remember distinctly the name Nixon because I read from the presidential elections that there was a choice between President Kennedy and Mr. Nixon.

So now suddenly Marina’s say so about something Lee told her is no longer reliable. How convenient.

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #140 on: July 10, 2023, 06:43:40 PM »
You think there was another sniper-type attack on April 10 that Marina mistook for Walker?

Marina never said April 10.

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« Reply #141 on: July 10, 2023, 07:32:12 PM »


I stand by my view that LHO wouldn't have been convicted for attempted murder in the Walker case if he lived to stand trial. Marina wouldn't have been able to testify against him and there's no direct evidence connecting him to the crime.

What difference does this make six decades later?  Even if true, it wouldn't mean Oswald didn't still do it since a verdict in a criminal trial can be wrong or limited by the admissible evidence.  In 2023, it matters only whether he did it or not.  And the evidence is conclusive of the fact.  We have access to Marina's testimony even if it could have been precluded by a marital privilege in a criminal trial context.  We have his confession.  We have recon photos of Walker's home.  We have the note.  Although they are found in the Paine's house that doesn't cast any doubt of them unless you are suggesting Ruth Paine was the Walker shooter ad attempted to frame Oswald for the crime after his death.  They were found among Oswald's possessions.  Baby June didn't commit this act. 

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #142 on: July 10, 2023, 08:10:43 PM »
unless you are suggesting Ruth Paine was the Walker shooter ad attempted to frame Oswald for the crime after his death.

I regret to inform you that they find this much more plausible.

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« Reply #143 on: July 10, 2023, 08:17:17 PM »
- The note is undated and doesn't mention Walker. Which means it's worthless as evidence. I doubt it would've been admissible if Oswald went to trial for the Walker shooting. 

- The photograph of Walker's home was found in Ruth Paine's home after LHO's death. It can't be proven that Oswald took the photo or brought it to her home.

 Walker himself denied that the bullet in evidence is the bullet that was recovered from his home. He described a different bullet and the initial police reports described a 30 caliber bullet, not the type of bullet that was used with a Mannliche-Carcano.


I stand by my view that LHO wouldn't have been convicted for attempted murder in the Walker case if he lived to stand trial. Marina wouldn't have been able to testify against him and there's no direct evidence connecting him to the crime.


Lame excuse #1: - The note is undated and doesn't mention Walker. Which means it's worthless as evidence. I doubt it would've been admissible if Oswald went to trial for the Walker shooting.

The note was reportedly and apparently intended as a note to Marina informing her as to what to do in the event LHO doesn’t return back home. To serve this purpose, it would not require or, in my opinion, even be desired for the note to include any date or reference to Walker. No, this isn’t a signed confession. But even if it was, your lame excuse would be that it could be fake, even though there is no evidence that it was fake. To the contrary, the experts say LHO wrote it. And to be admissible, the person who found it would only need to testify to finding it and identifying it.

Lame excuse #2: - The photograph of Walker's home was found in Ruth Paine's home after LHO's death. It can't be proven that Oswald took the photo or brought it to her home.

If I remember correctly, the experts said that the same camera that took the infamous backyard photos took the Walker house photos, and Marina testified that they were originally in a notebook that LHO compiled and that she convinced LHO to destroy. But he apparently saved those photos.

Lame excuse #3: Walker himself denied that the bullet in evidence is the bullet that was recovered from his home. He described a different bullet and the initial police reports described a 30 caliber bullet, not the type of bullet that was used with a Mannliche-Carcano.

Walker himself eh? Damn, is he a ballistics expert (being in the military isn’t proper qualifications for a forensic ballistics expert BTW)? What is his evidence for such a claim? How many years had gone by before he said such a thing? All that is required is for the person who found it to identify it. This was done. And it is a 6.5 mm Carcano very similar in composition to the unfired bullet found in the chamber of the rifle found on the sixth floor and with the same rifling characteristics as a 6.5 mm Carcano.


I stand by my view that LHO wouldn't have been convicted for attempted murder in the Walker case if he lived to stand trial. Marina wouldn't have been able to testify against him and there's no direct evidence connecting him to the crime.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But since there could be no trial for a dead man, the fact finding WC did have Marina testify.
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