An interesting video

[Charles Collins]

In this video , Marina makes statement of having looked at the rolled up blanket in the garage very soon after she and Mrs Paine heard the news that JFK had been shot from the TSBD.

And Marina apparently perceived that the blanket roll was still of the same bulk as she had previously seen it and therefore she was “relieved” because she thought the rifle was still in the blanket.

IDK what to believe when it comes to Marina Oswald’s statements.

This blanket was supposedly originally a favorite blanket that Oswald’s kids played with,  so it’s kind of odd that Oswald would have used such blanket as a make shift rifle bag.

Also, if the WC premise for leaving ring and money for Marina was a last gesture of a man embarked on committing a horrible act, then would not this special blanket have been unrolled, strings discarded , and folded carefully and left also as a final gesture?

So could it be just that  the blanket was rolled up with strings tied around it and it was EMPTY because  Oswald intended it to be a special item to be used when he played with his kids? This would be consistent with Buell W. Frazier opinion that Oswald cared for was fond of and liked playing with the kids.

Marina may have 1st sought  to lie to help her husband and then later was fearful enough to lie against her husband fearing her own fate was in the hands of the government.

LHO was apparently an accomplished “very sneaky guy.” But it appears to me that he believed that he would eventually be caught as the assassin. I think that he intentionally replaced the blanket to make it look like it still contained the rifle. This would be to hopefully make Marina believe that the rifle was still there (in case she became suspicious in the morning of 11/22/63, before the motorcade arrived at Dealey Plaza and tried to stop him). Also, his ring was placed in a cup (if I remember correctly) where she wasn’t likely to discover it before he could do his dirty deed.
I don’t remember reading that the kids played with the blanket. I think that LHO needed something to conceal the rifle in when he loaded it into Ruth Paine’s station wagon for the trip back to Dallas (which LHO was not taking). And the blanket served that purpose.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

LEMMiNO believes that Worrell told the truth, & hence some of LEMMiNO's youtube (where he analyses Worrell's testimony) is a waste of our time.
Here is a link to my thread where i look at the stairs, & Worrell.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2940.msg111987.html#msg111987

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

..................................... Ok, here is how LEMMiNO should have did it....................
Oswald fires his shot-1 at pseudo Z105, the slug ricochets off a guy-rod of the overhead signal arm, the slug puts a hole in the floor of the limo, the fine lead splatter hits jfk on the back of his head, & jfk utters my god i have been hit.
Oswald fires his shot-2 at Z218, the magic bullet.
Oswald stands up & back from the window, he duznt fire his last bullet.
Oswald sees that Hickey accidentally fires an auto-burst of his AR15 at Z300 to Z312, hitting jfk in the head.
Oswald takes off.
Oswald gets to the 2nd floor after 48 sec.
Oswald just missed seeing Hines walking along the corridor & into the entrance hall at the lunch room & entering the office door from the hall at about 47 seconds.
Oswald stops.  What to do next?
Should he continue down to the first floor?
Should he go to the first floor via the front stairs?
Should he lay low in the lunch room?
His jacket is in the Domino Room.
Uh Oh -- He hears Adams & Styles klomping down the stairs in a real hurry on a mission.
Best to visit the coke machine & hope that whoever it is goes clean past.
They pass. He comes back out. What to do next?
He can't decide.  He will be less conspicuous if he takes the front stairs, but he would then have to walk back into & throo the storage area to get his jacket in the Domino Room.
He decides to continue down the back stairs.
He makes a start but then Truly hollers up the elevator shaft, so he goes back up.
Then he hears Baker & Truly galloping up the stairs, & he retreats to the coke machine a second time.
He walks slow & cool.
He would have been better off diving into the lunchroom in a hurry, & laying low, he knows there is no-one in there, but he knows that if seen rushing (by Truly & Co) it will be a sure sign that he is guilty of something.
He nearly makes it, another couple of slow steps & he will be out of sight.
But damn, Baker spots a bit of him throo the glass of the door & says to come back.
Truly says that Oswald works here, & Baker & Truly gallop off.
They get to the 5th floor & take the east elevator to the 7th floor.
Oswald gets a coke to look less guilty & more cool if confronted again.  And assassinations go better with coke.
The back stairs are now dangerous.  He heads for the front stairs, either forgetting about his jacket or deciding that his jacket is a dead duck.
But just in case more dumb cops are entering along the corridor he goes via the office.
Damn, he meets Jeraldean Reid as she returns to her desk.  Mrs Hine is also in the office but she doesn't notice Oswald, or forgets.
Reid in 3 re-enactments took exactly 120 sec to get to her desk, which is about right (ie to meet Oswald).
She says something as they pass & he mumbles something back.  Its not a good look.  He has no business in the office, unless wanting change for the coke machine. Its not even a short cut to the stairs. Damn.  Anyhow no big deal.
He goes down the front stairs & mixes with the growing throng in the lobby near the front door without raising any suspicion.
Someone asks him about a phone.
Ok, things aint so bad, praps he can take a chance & get his jacket from the Domino Room anyhow.
Hmmm – he can get his jacket by going out the front door & down the steps & around & entering via the Houston dock (like he does each morning), & walking 16 paces to the jacket.
Getting caught walking in shouldn’t result in getting bitten by a cop.
So, off he goes, but he gets a little ways up Houston & he sees Officer Barnett on sentry duty at the dock, & Barnett looks vicious.
So, a quick U-turn & back down Houston.  Buell Frazier sees him walking south along Houston.
No, the jacket is a dead duck.  He decides to get out of there asap, he crosses Houston & then crosses Elm.
Tippit is waiting.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

LEMMiNO should have shown how  Geneva Hine could have been a problem for the Oswald timeline, lemmeseenow.
The phone lights in Hines office on the 2nd floor die out.  [The time is now say -1:00]
She walks to an eastern window.  [-0:50]
She sees the lead car coming along Houston St.  [-0:30]
She sees the JFK limo turn into Elm St. [-0:05]
She hears a shot. [0:01]
She hears 2 more shots.  [0:11].
She sees gawkers running & hitting the deck in Elm St (east end)(east end of east end). [0:20]
She walks south into the front Foyer to a locked office door & knocks, & yells, but no-one answers.  [0:25]
She walks north up the corridor & then west along the corridor to another locked office door, & shakes the door & yells & yells, but is ignored. [0:40]
She walks west along the corridor & then north along the corridor, & opens a door to the lunchroom entrance hall, & enters the hall. [0:45]
She turns & opens a door into the north west corner of her office, & enters the office.  [0:48]
Oswald exits the stairs & sees the door to the office closing behind Hine.  [0:48]
Phew.  That was a close shave (for both Oswald & for my Oswald timings). But my timeline works ok -- just.

Hmmmmm. Later, at 1:55, ie at 115 sec, Oswald enters that there same door, into that there office, instead of using the corridor.
We know that he enters at 115 sec koz he meets Jeraldean Reid at 118 sec, just before she gets to her desk at 120 sec.
Reid did 3 re-enactments of her traject from Elm St after the shots, & they all came to 120 sec.
Anyhow, i dont think that Oswald would have entered that there office if he knew for sure that someone was in there.
In which case Hine entered her office at 0:47, & Oswald didn't see her enter.
Re Hine versus Oswald, if u prefer, Hine entered her office at 0:48, & Oswald entered the 2nd floor at 0:49.
Yep, anyhow, one way or the other, Oswald was 1 sec later than Hine.
Hine walks to the phone desk. The 3 phone lines are going bezerk. [0:55]
Oswald enters Hine's office [1:55] & passes Jackalean Reid. [1:58]
Oswald walks past Hine & out of her office into the 2nd floor Lobby. [2:05]
Hine duznt notice Oswald, she is juggling the phones.

Reid's & Oswald's eyes met at 118 sec.
If Oswald had been a few seconds quicker, or if Hine had been a few seconds slower, then Hine's eyes would have met Oswald's eyes at 45 sec or at 51 sec.
I suppose that Oswald would have tried to look casual -- he might have partly followed Hine, & entered the lunchroom as if to get a coke -- or he might have continued casually down the stairs.
If he continued down the stairs then he would have been well ahead of Truly & Baker, but he might have seen them as he walked out the door to the Houston loading dock, after getting his jacket from the Domino Room, but i doubt that he would have seen Truly & Baker, Oswald would have been well outside the TSBD before they entered the 1st floor.
And Romack would have seen Oswald exiting the dock.

Now, if Oswald got to the 2nd floor at 48 sec, & if Baker & Truly got to the 2nd floor at 100 sec, then that means that Oswald dillyd for 52 sec.
And if he entered the office at 155 sec, then that means that he dallyd for another 55 sec, which adds to 107 sec of dillydally near the coke machine.
Anyhow it all turned out ok. 
Except that he lost his jacket.
And a Carcano.
And one bullet.
And a brown paper bag.
And no curtain rods.

Which leaves us with one obvious question.
Where is Waxahachie?
Waxahachie might make a good Sister City for Wagga Wagga.

[John Iacoletti]

I finally got around to watching the video. It is very well done visually, and he does a great job impartially presenting the known evidence and major points of controversy.

At least until the last half-hour or so when he goes completely off the rails into the very “Richard”-esque argument “I can’t imagine any Conspiracy intricately planning this sort of thing, therefore Oswald did it and we can just ignore all these discrepancies and contradictions to the officially spun narrative”.

For example, he just declares that Carolyn Arnold is “highly unreliable”, because…well, because she changed the details of her story. But it’s ok that Charles Givens changed the details of his story, because the way he did it does not make “conspiratorial” sense.

It’s the usual false dichotomy that says either Oswald did it just like the Warren Commission narrative decided, or there had to have been a conspiracy cast of thousands that pre-planned and perfectly executed every detail of what would happen not only that day but for months or even years prior to it. And the latter is too complex, therefore Oswald did it.

[Martin Weidmann]

I finally got around to watching the video. It is very well done visually, and he does a great job impartially presenting the known evidence and major points of controversy.

At least until the last half-hour or so when he goes completely off the rails into the very “Richard”-esque argument “I can’t imagine any Conspiracy intricately planning this sort of thing, therefore Oswald did it and we can just ignore all these discrepancies and contradictions to the officially spun narrative”.

For example, he just declares that Carolyn Arnold is “highly unreliable”, because…well, because she changed the details of her story. But it’s ok that Charles Givens changed the details of his story, because the way he did it does not make “conspiratorial” sense.

It’s the usual false dichotomy that says either Oswald did it just like the Warren Commission narrative decided, or there had to have been a conspiracy cast of thousands that pre-planned and perfectly executed every detail of what would happen not only that day but for months or even years prior to it. And the latter is too complex, therefore Oswald did it.

He made up for it at the end of the video...

[Dan O'meara]

I finally got around to watching the video. It is very well done visually, and he does a great job impartially presenting the known evidence and major points of controversy.

At least until the last half-hour or so when he goes completely off the rails into the very “Richard”-esque argument “I can’t imagine any Conspiracy intricately planning this sort of thing, therefore Oswald did it and we can just ignore all these discrepancies and contradictions to the officially spun narrative”.

For example, he just declares that Carolyn Arnold is “highly unreliable”, because…well, because she changed the details of her story. But it’s ok that Charles Givens changed the details of his story, because the way he did it does not make “conspiratorial” sense.

It’s the usual false dichotomy that says either Oswald did it just like the Warren Commission narrative decided, or there had to have been a conspiracy cast of thousands that pre-planned and perfectly executed every detail of what would happen not only that day but for months or even years prior to it. And the latter is too complex, therefore Oswald did it.

"It’s the usual false dichotomy that says either Oswald did it just like the Warren Commission narrative decided, or there had to have been a conspiracy cast of thousands that pre-planned and perfectly executed every detail of what would happen not only that day but for months or even years prior to it."

Obviously, there is no scenario or narrative that accounts for all the evidence/witness testimony.
But what do you think is the most likely scenario?
Not the Absolute Truth.
A probability, based on the available evidence.
As you point out, there is a spectrum of possibilities from "Oswald did it" to the "conspiracy cast of thousands".
But in between these extremes there are a multitude of possible scenarios.
Which one do you think seems most probable?

[John Iacoletti]

My opinion is that the available evidence points to a shooter from above and behind with a possible additional shooter from the front.  There is no good reason, given the available evidence, to believe that Oswald was a shooter.