A question about Oswald

[Martin Weidmann]

…I am sure that Lieutenant Day, who was in charge of the Crime Lab, dusted the rifle that was found on the sixth floor of the School Book Depository, and lifted a partial palm print off the underside of the barrel

This statement By Detective Livingston is absolutely true.....   We have the film footage taken by Tom Alyea that shows Detective Day dusting the rifle INSIDE the sixth Floor just minutes after the rifle was discovered BENEATH the pallet of boxes of books.    Alyea said the he watched as Detective Day LIFTED a print from the rifle with Scotch tape and place that lift on a small white card .   

We can be sure that this lift is the "palm print" that was presented to the WC .    The official tale says that detective  Day didn't tell the FBI about the lift and he lied about disassembling the and finding the print on the barrel after the rifle was disassembled.

after the rifle was taken apart. They had the actual print there in the office that night.

I'm confused, Walt. Isn't the print supposed be have come from a metal part of the rifle that can only be reached when the rifle is disassembled? Doesn't that mean that Day must have taken the rifle apart at the TSBD?

Or is it your opinion that the print came from somewhere else?

[John Iacoletti]

Engaging with either one of the naysayers is an exercise in futility. They appear to already have their minds made up that the authorities are not to be believed. The only reason to engage them is for the benefit of someone who has an open mind that might be reading these posts.

Says the special pleader trying to make the argument that Day quoted by Sneed decades later is somehow more legitimate than Day quoted by Drain in 1964.

The same guy who acknowledges morphing memories, but only when it suits him.

[John Iacoletti]

And besides the above Incredibly Powerful Indisputable Evidence,

Superimposing arrows on top of J. Edgar’s smudge doesn’t prove a damn thing.

Vincent Scalice with high resolution photos taken with multiple exposures of Oswald's rifle proved again beyond all doubt that Oswald's prints were on the Trigger Guard of Oswald's rifle!!!

Vincent Scalise was given photographs of unknown provenance or custody 3 decades later and then didn’t show any of his work. That doesn’t prove a damn thing “beyond all doubt”.

[John Iacoletti]

In addition, Day knew that the DPD as the investigative authority had sufficient evidence to link Oswald to the crime

How would you know that Day knew this? It’s not even true.

[John Iacoletti]

Snips from “JFK First Day Evidence” bit Gary Savage:

A quote from R.W. Livingston, Crime Lab Detective, DPD, page 77:

“…I am sure that Lieutenant Day, who was in charge of the Crime Lab, dusted the rifle that was found on the sixth floor of the
School Book Depository, and lifted a partial palm print off the underside of the barrel after the rifle was taken apart. They had the actual print there in the office that night.  Compared it myself with Oswald’s palm print. I thin all the other people on the day shift had already looked at the palm print before I arrived that night, but I went ahead and looked at the palm print myself and was satisfied that it was Oswald’s.”

But you can’t prove that Livingston actually said that. Two can play that game.

This is amazing though, considering that Day said he only told Fritz and Curry about the print that night. Must be more morphing memories.

[John Iacoletti]

Oswald was arrested and charged for the crime on Nov. 22.  There is no doubt whatsoever that Day, as everyone else in America, knew that meant the DPD believed they had sufficient evidence to link him to the crime. 

No, it meant that the DPD didn’t give a rat’s ass about probable cause.

[Zeon Mason]

Fact is that Drain signed an affidavit while Day was unwilling to do so.

One would think that when handing off a key piece of evidence that a  print had been lifted from , that some kind of Note or document would have  been included with the item so that even if Drain did  not HEAR Day say anything, that Drain would still be informed and or FBI informed by the attached note.

[Walt Cakebread]

I'm confused, Walt. Isn't the print supposed be have come from a metal part of the rifle that can only be reached when the rifle is disassembled? Doesn't that mean that Day must have taken the rifle apart at the TSBD?

Or is it your opinion that the print came from somewhere else?

The so called "Palm Print" was discovered on the rifle by detective Day IN THE TSBD  when he was dusting the rifle for finger prints just minutes after it was removed from BENEATH the pallet that had boxes of books stacked on it.   Day knew that the logical place to look for a palm print was on the foregrip of the rifle so he concentrated his search in that area with his magnifying glass. He found a smudge that he thought could be a print  but he wanted to exam that smudge in the lab. He knew that the wood of the foregrip could absorb the oil from the "print" so he lifted that "print" and placed it on a small white card, as Tom Alyea watched.  He jotted down the pertinent data about the "print" on the white card.

THAT is the source of the so called Palm Print  and that's why the FBI could find no trace of a print on the metal barrel and they could find no evidence that a lift had been made from the metal barrel.    BUT they needed "something" to link that rifle to Lee Oswald so they concocted  the stupid story that 99% of researchers believe.