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Online Richard Smith

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #160 on: September 14, 2023, 06:59:40 PM »
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      The SBT aside, there's no getting around the "time spacing" between the 3 shots. The quickness cited by ear witnesses between the 2nd and 3rd shots rules out the bolt action Carcano being responsible for both of those shots.

You are conflating issues.  The claim being addressed was that there were many shots.  More than three.  The witness testimony is compelling that there was a maximum of three shots.  If you add in those who heard only two, that's almost every witness to the event.  Very compelling that there was a maximum of three shots.  And, of course, that matches the number of recovered shell casings from Oswald's rifle. To suggest that bullets were flying everywhere in DP is false. 

In terms of what you are suggesting, many witnesses did claim the shots were not equally spaced out in time.  They didn't have a stopwatch timing the shots, however.  So any conclusion that a shorter time span between the 2nd and 3rd shots precludes Oswald from firing those shots can't be drawn from the evidence. 

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Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #161 on: September 14, 2023, 07:00:18 PM »

The SBT comes to mind…

Hoover wasn't aware of that? - He didn't approve it?

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #162 on: September 14, 2023, 07:02:57 PM »
You are conflating issues.  The claim being addressed was that there were many shots.  More than three.  The witness testimony is compelling that there was a maximum of three shots. 

Only “compelling” to people like you who never examine what you are told as long as it’s what you want to hear, and who don’t understand how human memory works.

When were most of these witnesses asked?

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #163 on: September 14, 2023, 07:12:03 PM »
Hoover wasn't aware of that? - He didn't approve it?

He wouldn’t have approved of anything that shed some “bad light” on the FBI. But, to Hoover’s displeasure, the WC wasn’t controlled by the FBI. Both the FBI and Secret Service concluded initially that 3 separate shots all hit the occupants of the limo. The WC questioned their conclusions and came up with the SBT (without Tague’s help).

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #164 on: September 14, 2023, 07:25:37 PM »
The WC questioned their conclusions and came up with the SBT (without Tague’s help).

Really? - which WC member?

- Redlich is talking 3 shot 3 hits all the way until late April. and he led the meetings.
Then, FBI allowed Shaneyfelt to build the SBT, for the WC because of a missed shot.
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #165 on: September 14, 2023, 07:37:18 PM »
Really? - which WC member?

- Redlich is talking 3 shot 3 hits all the way until late April. and he led the meetings.
Then, FBI allowed Shaneyfelt to build the SBT, for the WC because of a missed shot.

The FBI complied with the requests of the WC. The SBT originated in February. It was an attempt to explain where the bullet went after it exited JFK’s throat. Tague’s account was not involved at this stage. Redlich was a special assistant to Rankin. He did not lead all of the meetings. April comes before May. May is when the reenactment happened. Your claim that Tague caused the SBT is simply not true.

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #166 on: September 14, 2023, 07:39:05 PM »
There’s nothing in the alleged Willens journal transcript at jfk.org that indicates that the SBT was being formulated in early February. In fact, I don’t see anything about the SBT in the entire document.

https://www.jfk.org/wp-content/uploads/Howard-Willens-WC-Journal-1964.pdf

Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #167 on: September 14, 2023, 08:03:21 PM »
The FBI complied with the requests of the WC. The SBT originated in February. It was an attempt to explain where the bullet went after it exited JFK’s throat. Tague’s account was not involved at this stage. Redlich was a special assistant to Rankin. He did not lead all of the meetings. April comes before May. May is when the reenactment happened. Your claim that Tague caused the SBT is simply not true.

Redlich was Executive Assistant to Chief Counsel, J. Lee Rankin.  - He was building the report as the components came in.
Late April the executive branch of the WC were writing 3-shot 3-hits. You haven't shown anything otherwise.

Then, public news of a missed shot forced that to change.

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« Reply #167 on: September 14, 2023, 08:03:21 PM »