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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Babushka Lady is a conspirator.
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2018, 04:34:09 PM »
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Hi Tom,
Thank you for your reply.
I have done the following in this post:
1. Shown photographic evidence of shooters in the pergola.

No, actually you haven't.  You've shown a colorized Moorman photo with brown blobs drawn onto the pergola that you claim are gunmen.

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2. Shown that the Babushka Lady turned some type of flashlights that pointed in the direction of the pergola.

No, actually you haven't.  You've shown some kind of reflection distorted by motion blur on oversaturated Costella Z film frames.

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3. Shown circumstantial evidence that the Babushka lady is part of a broader conspiracy to assassinate JFK.

No, actually you haven't.  You just claimed that she was.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2018, 04:36:20 PM »
The following is what Bill Newman has always said:
http://jfkfacts.org/what-was-going-through-my-mind-was-that-shot-was-coming-right-over-the-top-of-our-heads/
"I said ?No, that?s it? and I hit the ground because at that moment, what was going through my mind was that shot was coming right over the top of our heads.?

A bullet from the place in the pergola where you claim to see gunmen to the president would not pass over Newman's head.

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If you look at the Zapruder Film, there are two strong jiggles after zframe 313 and zframe 330, which the timing coincides with the shots seen in the Nix Film.

What shots seen in the Nix film?

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« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2018, 04:41:37 PM »
Lee Harvey Oswald is as guilty as sin.  Just because there is no photographic evidence does not mean that he was not involved.  There is a preponderance of the evidence that he was involved.  His rifle, his alias, documentation, fleeing the scene, ...

No, there really isn't.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2018, 04:43:46 PM »
Tim, if you can't see it as is, arrows won't help.

That was the excuse you used for not pointing out the alleged "rifle butt imprint" on the three tramps photo as well.

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« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2018, 06:15:10 PM »
That was the excuse you used for not pointing out the alleged "rifle butt imprint" on the three tramps photo as well.


            There's a You Tube presentation done by Leroy Blevins Sr addressing the Tramp Rifle Butt Imprint issue. In that presentation Blevins presents a photo that does appear to display some sort of imprint on 1 of the tramps jacket or shirt. (forget exactly what apparel the tramp is wearing). It is alleged to be the imprint from the Metal Plate/Strip attached to the butt of a rifle. The Blevins narrative is that when the rifle was pressed firmly against the tramps shirt/jacket it left this impression. There is also alleged to be an imprint or imprints  from the screws that attached the Plate/Strip to the rifle butt that are also visible on the tramp photo. It is an interesting theory.
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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2018, 08:11:02 PM »
Royell,

Take a look at the Mark Bell film.  Look at what Ms. Sitzman does there.  Compare that with what she said in her interview with Isiah Thomson in November 1966.  At the 53 second mark of the Mark Bell film, you can see Ms. Sitzman and Mr. Zapruder.  You see Mr. Zapruder heading towards the TSBD and Ms. Sitzman entering the Pergola.

In her November 1966 interview, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sitzman.txt she states that she ran down the hill, then when back up the hill and then entered the pergola.  She also said that someone identified themselves as being an FBI agent when she went back up the hill.

Her 1966 interview does not reflect what the film evidence shows.



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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2018, 04:02:29 PM »
Royell,

Take a look at the Mark Bell film.  Look at what Ms. Sitzman does there.  Compare that with what she said in her interview with Isiah Thomson in November 1966.  At the 53 second mark of the Mark Bell film, you can see Ms. Sitzman and Mr. Zapruder.  You see Mr. Zapruder heading towards the TSBD and Ms. Sitzman entering the Pergola.

In her November 1966 interview, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sitzman.txt she states that she ran down the hill, then when back up the hill and then entered the pergola.  She also said that someone identified themselves as being an FBI agent when she went back up the hill.

Her 1966 interview does not reflect what the film evidence shows.


        Yeah. I have previously commented about the discrepancy between what we are seeing on the Bell Film vs Sitzman's interview by Tink Thompson. Sitzman said that after she ran back UP the Knoll, she encountered an alleged G-Man who showed her his ID. AFTER that encounter, she then went inside the Shelter. Perhaps the individual we are seeing on the Bell Film is Not Zapruder. Maybe we are seeing the alleged G-Man referred to by Sitzman in her Thompson interview. If this is the Sitzman referenced G-Man, it would attach a different Time Line to that segment of the Bell Film vs the Time Line which has been cavalierly assigned to it for over 50 years.

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« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2018, 06:08:37 PM »
Royell,

As you know I contend that there where two shooters in that shelter.  Having a supposed FBI "Agent" there gives more credence to shooters in the shelter.  I do however feel that the person in the film is Mr. Zapruder unless Mr. Bell cut the film and Ms. Sitzman somehow when down the hill.  As I stated before, I take peoples testimony with a grain of salt.  I rather rely on photographic and film evidence to come up with my conclusions.

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