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Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2023, 01:39:46 AM »
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The damage was..........
....... At Z312 (jfk hit in  head)(remnant slug cracks windshield).
....... At Z309 (slug hits chrome trim).
....... Earlier shots hit tarmac & kerb & Tague.

 You might want to rethink that "remnant slug cracks windshield) hypothesis.  Paramount+ has a trailer for their upcoming "JFK:What The Doctors Saw" Special. The 7 still living Dr's that were at Parkland Hospital on 11/22/63 and treated JFK are sticking with the throat wound being an ENTRANCE Wound. 

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2023, 01:39:46 AM »


Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2023, 02:13:34 AM »
   JFK's head and the tarmac are on opposite sides of Elm St. Basically, you got SA Hickey going John Rambo with the AR-15. I'm more inclined to believe he accidentally discharged the weapon in 1 Direction.
The line from the AR15 to above jfk's head goes to the kerb near Tague.
All of Hickey's 4 or 5 shots were in one direction, but different elevations.

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2023, 02:17:51 AM »
You might want to rethink that "remnant slug cracks windshield) hypothesis.  Paramount+ has a trailer for their upcoming "JFK:What The Doctors Saw" Special. The 7 still living Dr's that were at Parkland Hospital on 11/22/63 and treated JFK are sticking with the throat wound being an ENTRANCE Wound.
The remnant slug that cracked the windshield is the slug that hit jfk in the head (from behind)(the last shot of Hickey's burst)(which veered say 6deg inside the head).
The slug before that is the slug that dented the chrome trim (having passed close over the windshield of Queen Mary)(& then having passed under the divider/rollbar of the limo).

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2023, 03:25:54 AM »
The line from the AR15 to above jfk's head goes to the kerb near Tague.
All of Hickey's 4 or 5 shots were in one direction, but different elevations.

   Hickey was sitting in the (L) Back Seat of the Queen Mary. (Behind the Driver). JFK was sitting in the (R) Back Seat of the JFK Limo. (Behind Kellerman/Shotgun). Tague was positioned to the front (L) of JFK. With the Queen Mary positioned behind the JFK Limo, how does a Hickey fired shot traveling to the (R), Strike JFK and then zig-zag back to the (L) striking the tarmac? 

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2023, 03:43:29 AM »
   Hickey was sitting in the (L) Back Seat of the Queen Mary. (Behind the Driver). JFK was sitting in the (R) Back Seat of the JFK Limo. (Behind Kellerman/Shotgun). Tague was positioned to the front (L) of JFK. With the Queen Mary positioned behind the JFK Limo, how does a Hickey fired shot traveling to the (R), Strike JFK and then zig-zag back to the (L) striking the tarmac?
If u place the AR15 just left of the centerline of Queen Mary, & if u place JFK's head just right of the centerline of the jfklimo, then, in a plan-view, a line from the AR15 to JFK's head when extended goes to near where Tague is standing. And all of Hickey's shots were on about that line, but each shot having a different elevation if observed in a side-view.
But the exact direction of that line depends on the exact location of Queen Mary relative to the jfklimo, ie was Queen Mary directly behind, or, slightly to one side --- &, was Queen Mary parallel to the jfklimo or on a bit of an angle.
The shot that hit JFK did not hit the tarmac. The shot that hit the tarmac was the first & or second & or third.
But anyhow that stuff is in an old thread of mine, so if we want to look into it in more detail we should go to that thread.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2833.72.html

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2023, 03:43:29 AM »


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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2023, 05:01:53 AM »
If u place the AR15 just left of the centerline of Queen Mary, & if u place JFK's head just right of the centerline of the jfklimo, then, in a plan-view, a line from the AR15 to JFK's head when extended goes to near where Tague is standing. And all of Hickey's shots were on about that line, but each shot having a different elevation if observed in a side-view.
But the exact direction of that line depends on the exact location of Queen Mary relative to the jfklimo, ie was Queen Mary directly behind, or, slightly to one side --- &, was Queen Mary parallel to the jfklimo or on a bit of an angle.
The shot that hit JFK did not hit the tarmac. The shot that hit the tarmac was the first & or second & or third.
But anyhow that stuff is in an old thread of mine, so if we want to look into it in more detail we should go to that thread.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2833.72.html

    I took a look at the link you provided. Extending, " a line from the AR15 to JFK's Head when extended goes to near where Tague is standing". That is FALSE.  Tague was standing between Main St & Commerce St, very close to the Triple Underpass. Extending the red lines you have drawn does Not come close to the Tague area between Main & Commerce,   

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2023, 07:44:24 AM »
    I took a look at the link you provided. Extending, " a line from the AR15 to JFK's Head when extended goes to near where Tague is standing". That is FALSE.  Tague was standing between Main St & Commerce St, very close to the Triple Underpass. Extending the red lines you have drawn does Not come close to the Tague area between Main & Commerce,   
Yes it duzz.
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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2023, 01:14:07 PM »
Yes it duzz.


    Thanks for the visual aid. Now I understand the crux of this issue. We really are discussing the possible angle of the AR-15 upon discharge/burst. Personally, I believe a possible AR-15 discharge went in the direction of The Steps/Short Wall. This would account for the Gordon Arnold description of "Report" still going over his head after he dove to the ground. It would also explain The Tarp that was seen over this same general area during the SS Reconstruction Filming.

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2023, 01:14:07 PM »