Eyewitness Accounts vs. the Lone-Gunman Theory

[Michael T. Griffith]

One of the first things I noticed about the lone-gunman theory is that most of the eyewitness accounts either contradict it or outright refute it, and that therefore WC apologists reject most of the eyewitness accounts as mistaken or fraudulent. This should be a big red flag that something is seriously wrong with the lone-nut scenario, because suspects are convicted and punished based mainly or solely on eyewitness testimony all the time in our courts of law.

Whether we're talking about the witnesses who said they saw Ferrie and Oswald together, or the dozens of witnesses who reported hearing shots from the grassy knoll (some of whom also saw  smoke and smelled gun powder near the knoll), or the witnesses who said Oswald and Banister knew each other, or the witnesses who said that two of the shots came virtually at the same time (as in bang-bang, within a split-second of each other), or the witnesses who reported seeing Oswald at times and places that contradict the official version of Oswald's movements, or the witnesses who saw extra bullet strikes in Dealey Plaza or who saw extra bullets and bullet fragments after the shooting, etc.--in all these cases, and others, WC defenders reject the eyewitness accounts as mistaken or fraudulent.

Consider, for example, Secret Service agent Clint Hill's account that while he was riding on the back of Kennedy's limo for several minutes on the way to Parkland, he saw a large right-rear wound on JFK's head. Hill is just one of the dozens of witnesses who reported that JFK had a large wound on the right-rear part of his head.

Hill's account is compelling for two main reasons: One, his first observation of JFK's head wound was a prolonged, up-close look--he was within a few feet of JFK's head and had several minutes to view it. Two, Hill got two more looks at JFK's head that day, once at Parkland Hospital and again at the Bethesda morgue, and he went to the morgue for the express purpose of viewing and recording JFK's wounds. In his 11/30/63 statement on his activities on 11/22/63, Hill described what he saw:

As I lay over the top of the back seat I noticed a portion of the President's head on the right rear side was missing and he was bleeding profusely. Part of his brain was gone. (p. 3)

A few months later, Hill repeated this exact description to the WC:

Mr. HILL: The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head. (2 H 141)

Hill's description agrees with the descriptions given by the two Parkland nurses who actually handled JFK's head as they cleaned the head, packed the head wound with gauze, wrapped a sheet around the head, and prepared the body for placement in the casket--Nurses Diana Bowron and Doris Nelson. Both said they saw a large wound in the back of the head. When Nurse Nelson was shown the main autopsy photo of the back of the head, she dismissed the photo as false.

Hill's account also agrees with the description given by mortician Tom Robinson, who viewed the autopsy and who assisted with the reconstruction of JFK's skull after the autopsy. Robinson said there was a sizable, visible hole in the back of the head, and he even drew a diagram of the wound.

In 1978, Edward Reed, an x-ray technician during the autopsy, told the HSCA that there was a large wound in the “occipital region” of Kennedy’s head:

Reed recalled seeing three wounds. The first was very large and located in the right hemisphere in the occipital region. (HSCA Interview Summary of 4/21/78 Telephonic Interview of Edward F. Reed by HSCA Staffer Mark Flanagan, transcribed on May 11,1978, ARRB exhibit number MD 194, pp. 1-2)

I could literally go on and on for several pages with similar accounts from other witnesses. See Dr. Gary Aguilar's long article on this subject: http://www.assassinationweb.com/ag6.htm.

WC defenders would have us believe that all of those witnesses either lied or mistook the large wound above the right ear seen in the autopsy photos for a large wound 3-4 inches farther back on the skull that included part of the occiput. They cite the autopsy photos, which show the back of the head intact, even though one of the autopsy doctors, Dr. Pierre Finck, questioned how the main back-of-head photo had been authenticated, even though the primary autopsy photographer insisted that the autopsy brain photos were not the photos he took, even though the autopsy brain photos brazenly contradict the autopsy skull x-rays, and even though ARRB releases establish that the existing collection of autopsy photos is markedly incomplete and that some of the photos of the head were taken after the skull had been reconstructed. Rather than judge the autopsy photos by the dozens of mutually corroborating eyewitness accounts of a large right-rear head wound, WC defenders judge the eyewitness accounts by the autopsy photos.

I explore the conflict between the eyewitness testimony and the single-shooter scenario in the following article:

Only the Facts? Eyewitness Testimony vs. the Lone-Gunman Theory
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EWqCmVWKJYlFONAxoYa8CTBpja5ggQwu/view?usp=sharing

[Royell Storing]

   LN's do Not wanna believe JFK Assassination Eyewitnesses, and now they refute SCIENCE having determined that the "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE".  What do they have left? Nothing but prejudiced, one sided, OPINION. 

[John Mytton]

WC defenders would have us believe that all of those witnesses either lied or mistook the large wound above the right ear seen in the autopsy photos for a large wound 3-4 inches farther back on the skull that included part of the occiput.

The reality is, it only happened one way, listen closely, it only happened one way, and there are many eyewitnesses who saw the following.



But beyond these reliable, truthful, consistent eyewitnesses, don't forget that the following authentic, forensically reinforced, corroborating images are the most important pieces of evidence.

The endlessly proven Zapruder film shows the same damage as seen in the Autopsy photo's



The impossible to fake stereoscopic Autopsy photo's show the exact same wound as seen in the impossible to fake Zapruder film.





The authenticated head X-Rays of Kennedy also shows the exact same damage.



Even the unpolluted eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza who were interviewed within an hour or two all saw the precise same damage.



I know Michael that you are desperate to believe a few doctors who never even touched the head wound, who were looking at an uncleaned bloody wound and only saw Kennedy's body without being turned over, yet some of these men described a neat punched out hole in the skull, is that even believable? Over the years I have looked at many many images of real life skull exit wounds and never ever have I seen the perfectly neat exit hole as described by McClelland, his description from the get go is fraught with contradictions, for instance on his first day report he describes a wound in the left temple, yes seriously!



Btw Michael, I know for a fact that you are too far gone and won't take any of this Rock Solid Evidence on board because basically you lack the technical knowledge  of the complexities of altering the visual record, but even if these undeniably indisputable facts can reach 1 "on the fence" reader I will be eternally happy!

JohnM

[Royell Storing]

  The above is where the LN's currently are. ON TILT

[Jarrett Smith]

The Moorman photo shows the area missing on the back of his head. Clint Hill saw it as did Sam Kinney. This is the same defect that was sealed shut by Tom Robinson using a thin piece of rubber.

[John Mytton]

The Moorman photo shows the area missing on the back of his head. Clint Hill saw it as did Sam Kinney. This is the same defect that was sealed shut by Tom Robinson using a thin piece of rubber.

Sorry Jarret but you don't know what you are looking at, the top of Kennedy's head shows a huge defect and is clearly missing in Moorman's photo and the torn edge of the scalp flap is a match for the Autopsy photo. The authenticated legitimate images and film frames are closely interwoven and all show the same injury.





JohnM

[John Mytton]

  The above is where the LN's currently are.

Thanks Royell, yes the LNer's are currently at the forefront of the real SCIENCE in this case, backed by the most knowledgeable Forensic Scientists in a variety of fields from Medical EXPERTS with a combined at least Century of Education and first hand Experience, through to some of the World's finest Ballistic EXPERTS;

and in the Blue Corner.

Royell relies on a study which required guessing of passengers placement with a dollop of body distortion inserted into a "Bogus" film's still frame, which was only commissioned to satisfy a paying client. Go figure!

JohnM

[Royell Storing]

Thanks Royell, yes the LNer's are currently at the forefront of the real SCIENCE in this case, backed by the most knowledgeable Forensic Scientists in a variety of fields from Medical EXPERTS with a combined at least Century of Education and first hand Experience, through to some of the World's finest Ballistic EXPERTS;

and in the Blue Corner.

Royell relies on a study which required guessing of passengers placement with a dollop of body distortion inserted into a "Bogus" film's still frame, which was only commissioned to satisfy a paying client. Go figure!

JohnM

     So here we have a Layman attempting to malign SCIENCE. How pathetic is that?
     You can trot out all the Medical Experts you want. They have no impact. Cyril Wecht has been proven correct regarding the SBT traversing an obstacle course. And his appraisal of the SBT being the "Sine qua non" is spot on. Without the SBT, the lone assassin narrative is dead in the water. The Knott Labs Lazer 360 Science finding that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE", has immediately rendered LN's DOA.