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Offline Steve Barber

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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2023, 01:19:23 AM »
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There can be no possibility for truth when you are doing a recreation for money to satisfy your client who was footing the bill.
Even Blind Freddy with a more than passing interest in this case can see the myriad of mistakes in the Knotts Lab analysis.

Sorry Royell, the only SCIENCE that can be seen here, is Knott Labs satisfying their PAYING client!

"Knott Laboratory was hired by John Orr,....."
https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-laboratory-presents-digital-reconstruction-and-findings-on-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy/
Nuff said!



Since you mentioned Cyril Wecht, here's Cyril Wecht's SBF recreation which has even more errors than the Knotts Lab failure.



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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2023, 02:41:38 AM »

  What new? 2 LN's now morphing into SCIENCE DENIERS. 1 of 'em claiming he knows more than SCIENCE, the other trashing Cyril Wecht whose medical credentials are Top Shelf. This is what I mean by LN's being on TILT since the Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE found the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". This is the same SCIENCE that is used in court rooms across this country day-in and day-out. You 2 are nothing more than FLAT EARTHER'S who now can Not bring themselves to abandon a half baked THEORY that was hatched in a basement.   

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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2023, 03:48:46 AM »
What new? 2 LN's now morphing into SCIENCE DENIERS. 1 of 'em claiming he knows more than SCIENCE, the other trashing Cyril Wecht whose medical credentials are Top Shelf. This is what I mean by LN's being on TILT since the Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE found the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". This is the same SCIENCE that is used in court rooms across this country day-in and day-out. You 2 are nothing more than FLAT EARTHER'S who now can Not bring themselves to abandon a half baked THEORY that was hatched in a basement.   

That's correct, Royell Storing!  I'm trashing Wecht because his demonstrations are dishonest HOGWASH, and you know it, and so does he!  You know darned well that Kennedy and Connally weren't seated the way he sets those chairs up for his stand-ins.  Connally's seat was lower, and to Kennedy's left.  Kennedy was hugging the side of the car, as close as he could so he could rest his arm on the side rail.  So why does Wecht not get two chairs that accomodate the actual way the two men were seated?  He could if he wanted to, but if he were to reveal to the unknowing audience just how they were seated, it would destroy his entire "case".  He's a turd, and that you support him and his flat out dishonest misrepresentation of how the men were actually seated makes you one, as well!

The single bullet fact would be impossible if both Kennedy and Connally were seated the way Wecht sets up the stand-ins during his presentation, but they weren't seated Wecht's dishonest way!  So cut the crap, Storing!

Secondly, the type of animation that Dale Myers produced is used in a court of law, all over the world!  You don't know half of what has been going on around you, Mr. Storing!  You're nothing but a conspiracy buff who thinks everyone wearing an overcoat in Dealep Plaza killed JFK!  You haven't a clue of the people who peer reveiewd Dale Myers work before it went public! So why don[t you look it up!  That's asking too much, though.  You'll find out that you're full of nothing but hot air if you did look it up, and that's more than likely why you won't!

 Lastly, once again you've avoided answering the points I raised in my last post. That says a lot about you.     
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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2023, 05:33:20 PM »
That's correct, Royell Storing!  I'm trashing Wecht because his demonstrations are dishonest HOGWASH, and you know it, and so does he!  You know darned well that Kennedy and Connally weren't seated the way he sets those chairs up for his stand-ins.  Connally's seat was lower, and to Kennedy's left.  Kennedy was hugging the side of the car, as close as he could so he could rest his arm on the side rail.  So why does Wecht not get two chairs that accomodate the actual way the two men were seated?  He could if he wanted to, but if he were to reveal to the unknowing audience just how they were seated, it would destroy his entire "case".  He's a turd, and that you support him and his flat out dishonest misrepresentation of how the men were actually seated makes you one, as well!

The single bullet fact would be impossible if both Kennedy and Connally were seated the way Wecht sets up the stand-ins during his presentation, but they weren't seated Wecht's dishonest way!  So cut the crap, Storing!

Secondly, the type of animation that Dale Myers produced is used in a court of law, all over the world!  You don't know half of what has been going on around you, Mr. Storing!  You're nothing but a conspiracy buff who thinks everyone wearing an overcoat in Dealep Plaza killed JFK!  You haven't a clue of the people who peer reveiewd Dale Myers work before it went public! So why don[t you look it up!  That's asking too much, though.  You'll find out that you're full of nothing but hot air if you did look it up, and that's more than likely why you won't!

 Lastly, once again you've avoided answering the points I raised in my last post. That says a lot about you.     

      Cyril Wecht is an exceptionally accomplished forensic pathologist. Your questioning his medical opinions, (which SCIENCE has proven to be Correct), is like Goober Pyle critiquing the chess play of Bobby Fischer. Know your limitations!

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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2023, 05:49:10 PM »
      Cyril Wecht is an exceptionally accomplished forensic pathologist. Your questioning his medical opinions, (which SCIENCE has proven to be Correct), is like Goober Pyle critiquing the chess play of Bobby Fischer. Know your limitations!

  I'm not questioning his "medical opinons". I know his reputation as a coroner is exceptional, but his constant flat out lying about how Kennedy and Connally are seated in the limousine during assassination are two different things because it's a known fact that Wecht is PURPOSELY, dishonestly misleading people with lies about the actual positions of Kennedy and Connally!  You are just plain off your nut by ignoring this fact, Storing.  "SCIENCE" has NOT proven Wecht correct!  Stop saying that.  It has not proven him correct! Face it and accept it.  "SCIENCE" will never confirm anything Wecht does regarding the single bullet fact as long as he purposely and dishonestly continues to falsely demonstrate the seating arrangements of Kennedy and Connally during the shooting!  PERIOD!  And speaking of Goober Pyle.  You have the mentality level of dryer lint for believing Cyril Wecht is credible with his  dishonest display of how Kennedy and Connally were seated in the limousine, during the assassination.  So put that in your beverage and drink it.   

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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2023, 06:34:50 PM »
  I'm not questioning his "medical opinons". I know his reputation as a coroner is exceptional, but his constant flat out lying about how Kennedy and Connally are seated in the limousine during assassination are two different things because it's a known fact that Wecht is PURPOSELY, dishonestly misleading people with lies about the actual positions of Kennedy and Connally!  You are just plain off your nut by ignoring this fact, Storing.  "SCIENCE" has NOT proven Wecht correct!  Stop saying that.  It has not proven him correct! Face it and accept it.  "SCIENCE" will never confirm anything Wecht does regarding the single bullet fact as long as he purposely and dishonestly continues to falsely demonstrate the seating arrangements of Kennedy and Connally during the shooting!  PERIOD!  And speaking of Goober Pyle.  You have the mentality level of dryer lint for believing Cyril Wecht is credible with his  dishonest display of how Kennedy and Connally were seated in the limousine, during the assassination.  So put that in your beverage and drink it.

     You continue proving me correct as to your being on TILT. Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE finding that the "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE", does prove Wecht to be Correct. You SCIENCE DENIERS are outta control with your yelling and screaming, name calling, etc. This is probably the same denial seizures that some were afflicted with after Columbus proved the Earth was Not Flat. You're fighting with SCIENCE now, which is Way above your weight  See Billy Conn.

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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2023, 09:22:16 PM »
     You continue proving me correct as to your being on TILT. Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE finding that the "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE", does prove Wecht to be Correct. You SCIENCE DENIERS are outta control with your yelling and screaming, name calling, etc. This is probably the same denial seizures that some were afflicted with after Columbus proved the Earth was Not Flat. You're fighting with SCIENCE now, which is Way above your weight  See Billy Conn.

 You continue to prove me correct that you have the mentality level of dryer lint.

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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2023, 03:20:57 AM »
Well what about the witness who said they SAW smoke? Where they also mistaking tree foliage in the sunlight ?
 
Since it’s unlikely that a shooter would have used an antique musket from the revolutionary war, then it must have been either motorcycle or car starting up emission?

Unless there some kind of weird smoke from Files special gun that fires special exploding rounds that for some reason did not blow out the left side of JFKs skull. 😳

But those x rays could be faked and they could have removed a frame and added a frame or 2 in the Z-film to make it look like JFKs head went forward between Z312 and Z 313 , and reversed that bone fragment that flys in the direction the limo , and the blood splatter going forward maybe reversed too. 🤔🙄

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Re: Groden's 16mm Copy Of The Wiegman Film
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2023, 03:20:57 AM »