The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What

[Jack Nessan]

It seems that Brehm was the first to recognise the SBT.
Here are 2 pages from Sneed's  No More Silence.

The problem with Brehm is he was originally a two shot witness. 6 hours later he acknowledges that the media is reporting there were believed to be three shots and then changes his testimony to incorporate a third shot. He is a perfect example of the WC and HSCA’s reference to medias influence. What you are reading in Sneed’s book is Brehm’s media altered belief in a third shot. 

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

The problem with Brehm is he was originally a two shot witness. 6 hours later he acknowledges that the media is reporting there were believed to be three shots and then changes his testimony to incorporate a third shot. He is a perfect example of the WC and HSCA’s reference to medias influence. What you are reading in Sneed’s book is Brehm’s media altered belief in a third shot.

Yes. But, re the SBT, Brehm sort of shows that 2 or 3 mistakes can make a "right".

[Jack Nessan]

Yes. But, re the SBT, Brehm sort of shows that 2 or 3 mistakes can make a "right".

Even after adding an additional shot, he still maintained the second shot was the head shot. Hard to deny SBT with the second shot being the headshot.  Interesting he has JFK leaning forward when the first shot occurred.

Dallas Times Herald   11/22
The witness Brehm was shaking uncontrollably as he further described the shooting. "The first shot must not have been too solid, because he just slumped. Then on the second shot he seemed to fall back." Brehm seemed to think the shots came from in front of or beside the President. He explained the President did not slump forward as if he would have after being shot from the rear. The book depository building stands in the rear of the President's location at the time of the shooting.

 
FBI report 11/24
When the President's automobile was very close to him and he could see the President's face very well, the President was seated, but was leaning forward when he stiffened perceptibly at the same instant what appeared to be a rifle shot sounded. According to Brehm, the President seemed to stiffen and come to a pause when another shot sounded and the President appeared to be badly hit in the head. Brehm said when the President was hit by the second shot, he could notice the President's hair fly up, and then roll over to his side, as Mrs. Kennedy was apparently pulling him in that direction. Brehm said that a third shot followed and that all three shots were relatively close together. ... He also stated that it seemed quite apparent to him that the shots came from one of two buildings back at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets.

 

 

[Jack Nessan]

Even after adding an additional shot, he still maintained the second shot was the head shot. Hard to deny SBT with the second shot being the headshot.  Interesting he has JFK leaning forward when the first shot occurred.

Dallas Times Herald   11/22
The witness Brehm was shaking uncontrollably as he further described the shooting. "The first shot must not have been too solid, because he just slumped. Then on the second shot he seemed to fall back." Brehm seemed to think the shots came from in front of or beside the President. He explained the President did not slump forward as if he would have after being shot from the rear. The book depository building stands in the rear of the President's location at the time of the shooting.

 
FBI report 11/24
When the President's automobile was very close to him and he could see the President's face very well, the President was seated, but was leaning forward when he stiffened perceptibly at the same instant what appeared to be a rifle shot sounded. According to Brehm, the President seemed to stiffen and come to a pause when another shot sounded and the President appeared to be badly hit in the head. Brehm said when the President was hit by the second shot, he could notice the President's hair fly up, and then roll over to his side, as Mrs. Kennedy was apparently pulling him in that direction. Brehm said that a third shot followed and that all three shots were relatively close together. ... He also stated that it seemed quite apparent to him that the shots came from one of two buildings back at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets.

Marjan-The trajectory assumptions would be different if this is true. Is JFK leaning forward talking to JBC and this is not seen because of the sign?

Charles Brehm 11/24 FBI Report
When the President's automobile was very close to him and he could see the President's face very well, the President was seated, but was leaning forward when he stiffened perceptibly at the same instant what appeared to be a rifle shot sounded.

DPD Hargis makes the exact same claim. That JFK was bent forward talking to JBC at the time of the first shot.
"When I heard the first explosion, I knew it was a shot. I thought that Gov. Connally had been hit when I saw him turn toward the President with a real surprised look."
"The President then looked like he was bent over or that he was leaning toward the Governor, talking to him."

"As the President straightened back up, Mrs. Kennedy turned toward him, and that was when he got hit in the side of his head, spinning it around. I was splattered with blood.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Marjan-The trajectory assumptions would be different if this is true. Is JFK leaning forward talking to JBC and this is not seen because of the sign?

Charles Brehm 11/24 FBI Report
When the President's automobile was very close to him and he could see the President's face very well, the President was seated, but was leaning forward when he stiffened perceptibly at the same instant what appeared to be a rifle shot sounded.

DPD Hargis makes the exact same claim. That JFK was bent forward talking to JBC at the time of the first shot.
"When I heard the first explosion, I knew it was a shot. I thought that Gov. Connally had been hit when I saw him turn toward the President with a real surprised look."
"The President then looked like he was bent over or that he was leaning toward the Governor, talking to him."

"As the President straightened back up, Mrs. Kennedy turned toward him, and that was when he got hit in the side of his head, spinning it around. I was splattered with blood.

Yes. From memory (it was so long ago).
Just before jfk disappears behind the sign he has his right arm/hand hi up waving. He is looking to his right.
And then (we can see that) he starts to lower his right arm/hand, while he starts to turn his head left (to look at an african-american family standing well back on the grass south of Elm)(a man & mum & boy)(the only gawkers for about 20yd to their east)(where we see a girl running)(the only gawkers for about 20yd to their west)(where we see babushka lady & the Brehms).
We cant see whether jfk simply turns his head to the left, or whether jfk turns his head plus starts to swing his whole body to the left.
To swing his body to the left he has to lean forward, to help his turn (jfk has a stiff back).
Or, as Brehm says, praps jfk simply leans forward to talk to Connally (or at least it appeared as if jfk wanted to talk)(while turning his head to the left).
                                        And we then have the magic bullet at imo Z218.
                         So, jfk is hidden by the sign from say Z213 to Z223 (needs checking).
In any case Z218 is at dead center of the sign (5 Z frames after jfk disappears)(5 frames before jfk re-appears).

I suspect that a leaning forward makes the shot-2 traject inside jfk work better (ie Carcano & inshoot & outshoot have to line up).
And i think that a leaning forward makes the SBT work better (ie it allows the inshoots & outshoots [seven ovem][7 ovem]) to line up better with the Carcano.

 

[Michael T. Griffith]

It seems that Brehm was the first to recognise the SBT.

You again prove that you don't know what you're talking about. Brehm didn't speculate that JFK and Connally were hit by the same non-fatal bullet until over 20 years after the shooting (in the 1980s). He said nothing about this in his 11/22/63 Dallas Times Herald interview or in his 11/24/63 FBI interview. Not one word.

The problem with Brehm is he was originally a two shot witness. 6 hours later he acknowledges that the media is reporting there were believed to be three shots and then changes his testimony to incorporate a third shot. He is a perfect example of the WC and HSCA’s reference to medias influence. What you are reading in Sneed’s book is Brehm’s media altered belief in a third shot.

Brehm never said there were only two shots.

So here you guys are carrying on and on about the SBT and ignoring the fact that the Knott Laboratory 3D laser analysis has proved that the SBT is impossible.

This is so typical of what you guys do here. You simply ignore facts that refute your version of the shooting, and you post reply after reply as if those facts don't exist.

Anyway, back to Brehm: It is quite curious to see anti-conspiracy proponents citing Charles Brehm, because even his later, altered story refutes any non-conspiracy version of the shooting.

For starters, before Brehm knew what he was supposed to say about the origin of the shots, he told a Dallas Times Herald reporter shortly after the shooting that the shots came from in front or from the side of JFK ("the shots came from in front of or beside the President").

Then, two days later, two FBI agents got ahold of Brehm and claimed that he told them, in their unrecorded interview, that the shots came from one of the two buildings at Elm and Houston, that the first shot wounded JFK, that the second shot was the headshot, and that there was a shot after the headshot.

When Brehm gave a recorded interview in 1988, he declared that all the shots positively came from the TSBD and from nowhere else, and he speculated that JFK and Connally were hit by the same non-fatal bullet, but he still insisted that the second shot was the headshot and that there was a shot after the headshot. He added an important detail about the third shot that he heard: he said the shot flew over him and was close enough that he heard it fly over him, that it had a different sound than the two other shots, and that it "didn't hit anybody":

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The third shot really frightened me! It had a completely different sound to it because it had really passed me, as anybody knows who has been down under targets in the Army or been shot at like I had been many times. You know when a bullet passes over you, the cracking sound it makes, and that bullet had an absolute crack to it. I do believe that that shot was wild. It didn’t hit anybody.
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It is very important that the third shot that Brehm heard passed so closely above him that he heard it go over him. As Brehm said, anyone who has had bullets pass near them knows that sound. I had the same experience during Army live-fire exercises when they would have us low-crawl on the ground and fire bullets a few feet above our heads so we would know what it sounded like to have bullets pass near us. You only hear that sound when a bullet passes near you, whether it's beside you or above you.

The fact that Brehm heard a bullet fly closely above him poses at least two fatal problems for any non-conspiracy version of the shooting.

One, the missed shot that Brehm heard fly nearby over his head could not even remotely have had any chance of hitting the curb near James Tague. Brehm was standing about 10-12 feet to the right of Jean Hill and Mary Moorman and nearly directly in front of the Babushka Lady. If you draw a line from the sixth-floor window through/near Brehm and to the south side of Main Street, you end up at a point on Main Street that is at least 40 feet from the Tague curb strike.

Two, it boggles the mind to imagine how the same sixth-floor gunman who had just hit JFK's head could have so wildly missed not only JFK but the entire huge limousine with his next shot. This miss would have been at least 12 feet to the left of the limousine and several feet above it. To miss the large limo so badly, the limo, not to mention JFK's upper body, would not even have been in the gunman's field of view through the scope (or through the iron sights). 

Obviously, it is far more likely, and far more logical, that this miss came from a point behind Brehm, which would explain why his first statement about the shots was that they came from the front or side of JFK, which would have placed the gunman at a point behind Brehm.

[Jack Nessan]

You again prove that you don't know what you're talking about. Brehm didn't speculate that JFK and Connally were hit by the same non-fatal bullet until over 20 years after the shooting (in the 1980s). He said nothing about this in his 11/22/63 Dallas Times Herald interview or in his 11/24/63 FBI interview. Not one word.

Brehm never said there were only two shots.

So here you guys are carrying on and on about the SBT and ignoring the fact that the Knott Laboratory 3D laser analysis has proved that the SBT is impossible.

This is so typical of what you guys do here. You simply ignore facts that refute your version of the shooting, and you post reply after reply as if those facts don't exist.

Anyway, back to Brehm: It is quite curious to see anti-conspiracy proponents citing Charles Brehm, because even his later, altered story refutes any non-conspiracy version of the shooting.

For starters, before Brehm knew what he was supposed to say about the origin of the shots, he told a Dallas Times Herald reporter shortly after the shooting that the shots came from in front or from the side of JFK ("the shots came from in front of or beside the President").

Then, two days later, two FBI agents got ahold of Brehm and claimed that he told them, in their unrecorded interview, that the shots came from one of the two buildings at Elm and Houston, that the first shot wounded JFK, that the second shot was the headshot, and that there was a shot after the headshot.

When Brehm gave a recorded interview in 1988, he declared that all the shots positively came from the TSBD and from nowhere else, and he speculated that JFK and Connally were hit by the same non-fatal bullet, but he still insisted that the second shot was the headshot and that there was a shot after the headshot. He added an important detail about the third shot that he heard: he said the shot flew over him and was close enough that he heard it fly over him, that it had a different sound than the two other shots, and that it "didn't hit anybody":

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The third shot really frightened me! It had a completely different sound to it because it had really passed me, as anybody knows who has been down under targets in the Army or been shot at like I had been many times. You know when a bullet passes over you, the cracking sound it makes, and that bullet had an absolute crack to it. I do believe that that shot was wild. It didn’t hit anybody.
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It is very important that the third shot that Brehm heard passed so closely above him that he heard it go over him. As Brehm said, anyone who has had bullets pass near them knows that sound. I had the same experience during Army live-fire exercises when they would have us low-crawl on the ground and fire bullets a few feet above our heads so we would know what it sounded like to have bullets pass near us. You only hear that sound when a bullet passes near you, whether it's beside you or above you.

The fact that Brehm heard a bullet fly closely above him poses at least two fatal problems for any non-conspiracy version of the shooting.

One, the missed shot that Brehm heard fly nearby over his head could not even remotely have had any chance of hitting the curb near James Tague. Brehm was standing about 10-12 feet to the right of Jean Hill and Mary Moorman and nearly directly in front of the Babushka Lady. If you draw a line from the sixth-floor window through/near Brehm and to the south side of Main Street, you end up at a point on Main Street that is at least 40 feet from the Tague curb strike.

Two, it boggles the mind to imagine how the same sixth-floor gunman who had just hit JFK's head could have so wildly missed not only JFK but the entire huge limousine with his next shot. This miss would have been at least 12 feet to the left of the limousine and several feet above it. To miss the large limo so badly, the limo, not to mention JFK's upper body, would not even have been in the gunman's field of view through the scope (or through the iron sights). 

Obviously, it is far more likely, and far more logical, that this miss came from a point behind Brehm, which would explain why his first statement about the shots was that they came from the front or side of JFK, which would have placed the gunman at a point behind Brehm.

"Brehm never said there were only two shots."

Brehm very definitely did say there was only two shots. Brehm six hours later references the media and discussions about there having been three shots, but originally he only has a shot one and two like so many. Even after adding a third shot he still has the second shot as the head shot. SBT is the only answer there is.

Brehm 11/22 Dallas Herald

The witness Brehm was shaking uncontrollably as he further described the shooting. "The first shot must not have been too solid, because he just slumped. Then on the second shot he seemed to fall back." Brehm seemed to think the shots came from in front of or beside the President. He explained the President did not slump forward as if he would have after being shot from the rear. The book depository building stands in the rear of the President's location at the time of the shooting.


FBI Report 11/24

When the President's automobile was very close to him and he could see the President's face very well, the President was seated, but was leaning forward when he stiffened perceptibly at the same instant what appeared to be a rifle shot sounded. According to Brehm, the President seemed to stiffen and come to a pause when another shot sounded and the President appeared to be badly hit in the head. Brehm said when the President was hit by the second shot, he could notice the President's hair fly up, and then roll over to his side, as Mrs. Kennedy was apparently pulling him in that direction. Brehm said that a third shot followed and that all three shots were relatively close together. ... He also stated that it seemed quite apparent to him that the shots came from one of two buildings back at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets.

The second shot being the headshot could not be more obvious. Honestly how do you ignore all these two shot witnesses that were eyewitnesses and within feet of the car during the shooting. You follow these off breed internet clowns you are always quoting but blow off these people who stood right there and had no hidden agenda as to the assassination.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Here is Brehm, shortly after the shooting, saying he heard two shots, that JFK was hit with the second hit in the head with the second after being hit by the first. I would think if he heard a third he would have mentioned it? The evidence for me strongly indicates there were three but the argument for two is almost as valid. Why most of the witnesses further down Elm Street said they only heard two is puzzling (Hudson said three shots but he's a shaky witness). Anyway, here is Brehm.