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Offline Carter Justice

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Reasons for Continued Coverup?
« on: March 05, 2024, 09:16:41 PM »
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I do not believe that LHO was the lone assassin of JFK.  However, I can't understand why anyone in the government present day, would think it was necessary to keep the truth hidden.  Anyone who was in a position of authority from when the plot was executed in 1963, has most likely passed.  I know that the Government wants to keep everyone believing that they would never participate in something like this. Still, in today's age of whistleblowing, I think there would be more benefit to the politicians today to release the facts.  They could say "See, they were bad, we are good."  What are your opinions?

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Re: Reasons for Continued Coverup?
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2024, 09:40:35 PM »

    The "Deep State" Never reveals anything. Today, we find out through a FOIA and court battles that the US Govt has already flown over 300,000 illegals into the USA. "Covert" mandates endless silence.   

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2024, 04:38:35 PM »
I do not believe that LHO was the lone assassin of JFK.  However, I can't understand why anyone in the government present day, would think it was necessary to keep the truth hidden.  Anyone who was in a position of authority from when the plot was executed in 1963, has most likely passed.  I know that the Government wants to keep everyone believing that they would never participate in something like this. Still, in today's age of whistleblowing, I think there would be more benefit to the politicians today to release the facts.  They could say "See, they were bad, we are good."  What are your opinions?

There never was a conspiracy because the evidence demonstrates beyond doubt that Oswald by his lonesome is the guilty party.  A conspiracy narrative becomes necessary only when the proponent of a theory lacks any credible evidence to support their theory.  For example, UFO believers have to argue that men in black are forever covering up discoveries of aliens to explain why no credible evidence exists to prove their theory that we are visited by green men from Mars.  A government conspiracy is their answer.  Same deal with the JFK assassination.  CTers can't prove the involvement of others.  They blame this on a conspiracy to frame Oswald and cover up the evidence.  An endless cycle in which the inability to prove their theory is due to the cover up.  They go hand in hand.  Some governmental agencies contribute to this cycle of lunacy with their culture of secrecy.  The CIA, FBI, and other government agencies have nothing to gain by being transparent.  They always land on the side of nondisclosure.  Arguably, there may still be informants in organized crime, Cuba, and Russia who were contacted for any information on Oswald and his possible connections to foreign governments or organized crime.   The identity of those informants and their families could place them at risk even decades later.  Nevertheless, you do pose a good question.  Why do the CTers who go on and on and on here claiming they have solid "evidence" or arguments based on the record that cast doubt on Oswald's guilt never present those claims to current day law enforcement or media outlets?  If they really believed that they had evidence in the homicide of the president of the United States, wouldn't they want to make their case to the authorities?  But no.  They forever hide on Internet forums.  That lends a psychological insight that they may not really believe their own nonsense.  They are caught up in some type of compulsion disorder that they can exercise on Internet forums without consequences such as being exposed as a potential mental case.  It can be amusing, however, because they take their "evidence" very seriously and claim it can't be refuted but never accept the offer to reach out to the Dallas Police or other law enforcement agency.  The contrast between their arrogance and insecurity is more interesting than their often idiotic theories.

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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2024, 04:56:51 PM »
There never was a conspiracy because the evidence demonstrates beyond doubt that Oswald by his lonesome is the guilty party.  A conspiracy narrative becomes necessary only when the proponent of a theory lacks any credible evidence to support their theory.  For example, UFO believers have to argue that men in black are forever covering up discoveries of aliens to explain why no credible evidence exists to prove their theory that we are visited by green men from Mars.  A government conspiracy is their answer.  Same deal with the JFK assassination.  CTers can't prove the involvement of others.  They blame this on a conspiracy to frame Oswald and cover up the evidence.  An endless cycle in which the inability to prove their theory is due to the cover up.  They go hand in hand.  Some governmental agencies contribute to this cycle of lunacy with their culture of secrecy.  The CIA, FBI, and other government agencies have nothing to gain by being transparent.  They always land on the side of nondisclosure.  Arguably, there may still be informants in organized crime, Cuba, and Russia who were contacted for any information on Oswald and his possible connections to foreign governments or organized crime.   The identity of those informants and their families could place them at risk even decades later.  Nevertheless, you do pose a good question.  Why do the CTers who go on and on and on here claiming they have solid "evidence" or arguments based on the record that cast doubt on Oswald's guilt never present those claims to current day law enforcement or media outlets?  If they really believed that they had evidence in the homicide of the president of the United States, wouldn't they want to make their case to the authorities?  But no.  They forever hide on Internet forums.  That lends a psychological insight that they may not really believe their own nonsense.  They are caught up in some type of compulsion disorder that they can exercise on Internet forums without consequences such as being exposed as a potential mental case.  It can be amusing, however, because they take their "evidence" very seriously and claim it can't be refuted but never accept the offer to reach out to the Dallas Police or other law enforcement agency.  The contrast between their arrogance and insecurity is more interesting than their often idiotic theories.

   Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE has proven the SBT "IS IMPOSSIBLE". This same SCIENCE is admitted as "Evidence" inside courtrooms across the USA on a daily basis. The SBT being contrived inside a basement with a mock auto backseat and a school room pointer has always been nothing more than a Doc Brown visual aid.     
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Re: Reasons for Continued Coverup?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2024, 07:16:59 PM »
I do not believe that LHO was the lone assassin of JFK.  However, I can't understand why anyone in the government present day, would think it was necessary to keep the truth hidden.  Anyone who was in a position of authority from when the plot was executed in 1963, has most likely passed.  I know that the Government wants to keep everyone believing that they would never participate in something like this. Still, in today's age of whistleblowing, I think there would be more benefit to the politicians today to release the facts.  They could say "See, they were bad, we are good."  What are your opinions?
Since the assassination we've had a series of revelations/exposures by Congress and the media into government conspiracies/corruption. We all know the sad list: Vietnam, Watergate, Cointelpro, the CIA's "Family Jewels." Many of these revelations came from whistle blowers or evidence found by Congressional investigators or reporters. So the idea that all of these other conspiracies, conspiracies which would be smaller than a JFK assassination plot, would be discovered but this larger, more sinister assassination plot kept secret belies common sense. And we are talking about two or three generations of Americans over half a century? Nobody exposed this? For fame, money, ethics? No one?

The famous investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said the idea of a CIA/government conspiracy, one promoted by Oliver Stone among others, in the assassination is absurd. It can't be done. There would be too many people involved, too many agencies and divisions and personalities; it's simply not possible to plan such a thing and carry it out and keep it all quiet. And I think Hersh would know something about how the CIA and other security agencies operate.


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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2024, 08:00:17 PM »
Since the assassination we've had a series of revelations/exposures by Congress and the media into government conspiracies/corruption. We all know the sad list: Vietnam, Watergate, Cointelpro, the CIA's "Family Jewels." Many of these revelations came from whistle blowers or evidence found by Congressional investigators or reporters. So the idea that all of these other conspiracies, conspiracies which would be smaller than a JFK assassination plot, would be discovered but this larger, more sinister assassination plot kept secret belies common sense. And we are talking about two or three generations of Americans over half a century? Nobody exposed this? For fame, money, ethics? No one?

The famous investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said the idea of a CIA/government conspiracy, one promoted by Oliver Stone among others, in the assassination is absurd. It can't be done. There would be too many people involved, too many agencies and divisions and personalities; it's simply not possible to plan such a thing and carry it out and keep it all quiet. And I think Hersh would know something about how the CIA and other security agencies operate.

    It just became public knowledge that the US Govt flew 320,000 illegal aliens into 43 different airports over the course of the last yr. This clandestine "stuff" is Not new. With regard to, "...the idea of a CIA/government conspiracy, one promoted by Oliver Stone among others, in the assassination is absurd", displays memory loss or ignorance of "Operation Mongoose". 

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Re: Reasons for Continued Coverup?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2024, 10:51:12 PM »
    It just became public knowledge that the US Govt flew 320,000 illegal aliens into 43 different airports over the course of the last yr. This clandestine "stuff" is Not new. With regard to, "...the idea of a CIA/government conspiracy, one promoted by Oliver Stone among others, in the assassination is absurd", displays memory loss or ignorance of "Operation Mongoose".
Operation Mongoose was run out of the Kennedy White House. It was pushed by the Kennedys, especially RFK, after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion. This was no "Deep State" rogue operation; it was undertaken on orders of the President. There are entire books written on it; it's been exposed for decades. In any case, I don't know what this has to do with this supposed coverup of the assassination of JFK but it's your call (covert acts ordered by a President against a hostile foreign government during a "Cold War" is not in any way similar to the treasonous murder of your *own* president and then a half century coverup).

Once again: the assassination is the most investigated event/crime in US history. Multiple generations of Americans in government and in the media investigated it directly and indirectly. And multiple generations of Americans have served in the various agencies over the past 60 years such as the CIA, the FBI and the Pentagon. The idea that you could keep the conspiracy quiet after all of this, all of these investigations, all of these men and women going into and out of the government is preposterous.

Finally, I have no idea how pointing to other government conspiracies that we know about is evidence that there was a conspiracy in the assassination that has been covered up. How does pointing out *other* exposed/revealed conspiracies, like Operation Mongoose, show that the JFK conspiracy has been hidden? In fact, it shows the opposite. All of these other revelations show how impossible it would be to suppress a conspiracy in the assassination of JFK. People talk, investigations uncover it, documents are found. That's what happens.
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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Reasons for Continued Coverup?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2024, 11:06:25 PM »
The last comprehensive government investigation into the assassination concluded there was a conspiracy.
It was called the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
Are all the Nutters stuck in the 1960's?

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