Oswald Acted Alone Is The Most Popular Theory

[Fergus O'Brien]

Hi all,
I am new to this forum that i recently found by Google.
I have done a deep dive into this topic, and have my own copy of the WC Report, which I have read, twice, all 888 pages, and i have concluded zero conspiracy. Nada. Zilch.
Along with various books promoting conspiracy (usual suspects), and no conspiracy such as Gerald Posner's Case Closed (excellent), and David Belin's Final Disclosure, also excellent, and pretty much a first hand account investigating so soon after the assassination. Anyway, too much to say in a initial post, but I wonder what percentage of people with an opinion have read the WC report? And it is too easy to dismiss the report as propaganda. It should be read by anyone interested.

One thing that has always struck me is the location and timing. Would any nefarious powers-that-be really think it would be a good idea to take out a President at Dealy Plaza, during a public motorcade? With thousands of witnesses? Would there not be a better plan that wasn't so public?

Also, that Oswald had an assassination trial run in April 63' (acting alone) with his attempt on General Walker is a massive red flag, and that this incident is played down, or not even mentioned by conspiracy theorists is telling.

"Also, that Oswald had an assassination trial run in April 63' (acting alone) with his attempt on General Walker is a massive red flag, and that this incident is played down, or not even mentioned by conspiracy theorists is telling." Stuart lee

with all due respect if you believe that so called CT do not mention the Walker incident well i have to question what you CLAIM you have read .i have seen and read plenty in regards the walker incident .and there is little or no evidence linking Oswald to it . the conclusion that Oswald did it was based in main on the say so of his wife and based on the so called Walker note that was undated .in fact there is evidence that contradicts a notion that Oswald did it .

the lead alloy of the bullet DID NOT match the alloy from JFKs limo .
the detective on the scene said the bullet was STEEL jacketed .
Walker HIMSELF disputed the authenticity of the so called walker bullet .
Walkers neghbour saw TWO men peering into Walkers window , they quickly took off .
the only known witness to the shooting saw TWO men leave in two cars after one placed something long on the rear seat .

you are as is everyone entitled to your opinion in regard this case , that is your right . however your logic is flawed in regards the WR . so if someone studied the 26 volumes plus the executive sessions etc etc but did not bother to read the report would that mean their opinion was invalid ? of course not . the WR is supposedly based on the 26 volumes . in 1964 and even now few had or could afford to buy the 26 volumes , most people in 64 accepted what the WC concluded based on what the media told them .

[Steve Barber]

Hi Royell, you seem to be the self proclaimed expert on the Knott Lab Laser reconstruction so I wondered if you could help me out with something I don't quite understand about it.
I watched a brief video outlining the reconstruction and how it relates to various photos taken around the time of the assassination. It zooms all over Dealey Plaza showing us views of the throat shot from numerous angles. It then whizzes up to the SN and turns around to show us the view the shooter had and the angle of the bullet [the green line]:



We then zoom down the green line toward the limo where we see how it passes through JFK and hits JBC. Which looks like this:



Now this is what I'm not sure about.
In the pic above the red line appears to show where the bullet entered Connally's back and passed through him. The green line shows the line of the bullet from the SN through JFK to where it hits Connally's back.
It looks to me like the green line hits Connally's back about 10 inches away from where it is supposed to hit [the red line].
Is this what Knott have come up with?
That, according to their calculations, a bullet from the SN would've actually hit Connally about 10 inches away from where it actually did?
Is this what they have demonstrated?
Am I missing something because I feel I must be missing something really major here.
Can you tell me what it is.

  Hi Dan! 

  I'm a bit baffled as to why you didn't receive an answer to your question from Royell Storing.   I was just leafing through this thread, and came upon this page, and noticed that you posted your question, with image included of the "Knotts" video on April 23.  Five days ago.  I'm interested in hearing Royell's answer.  The positions of both JKF and Connally and the trajectories aof the bullet is ludicrous.  JFK wasn't seated in that position, and neither of JBC when the bullet struck. Connally was seated with his back against the back cusion, as was JFK.
Where did "Knotts" come up with this nonsense? 

[Dan O'meara]

  Hi Dan! 

  I'm a bit baffled as to why you didn't receive an answer to your question from Royell Storing.   I was just leafing through this thread, and came upon this page, and noticed that you posted your question, with image included of the "Knotts" video on April 23.  Five days ago.  I'm interested in hearing Royell's answer.  The positions of both JKF and Connally and the trajectories aof the bullet is ludicrous.  JFK wasn't seated in that position, and neither of JBC when the bullet struck. Connally was seated with his back against the back cusion, as was JFK.
Where did "Knotts" come up with this nonsense?

This all seems like an opportunity missed. The model of Dealey Plaza and the limo seem great but when it comes to the most important aspect of this model - the occupants of the limo - it's like they got a 5 year old to do that bit. Everything that can be wrong about them is wrong - wrong size, wrong position, wrong relative positions. In comparison to the rest of the model, the occupants seem really crudely done. I don't understand why this is.
I can't find a critique of the Knott reconstruction anywhere. I know nothing about computer graphics but I can plainly see there is so much wrong here.
As for Royell...who knows.
He cannot stop going on about the Knott Lab reconstruction but ask him a question about it and he disappears.

[Matthew Finch]

Oswald had just assassinated the president and left his rifle at the crime scene and you are quibbling about a small lie that he told to explain why he left?  That's what you find "weird" in this scenario?  Oswald's problem was that he was guilty.  He knew that.  What else was he going to do?  He had no good explanation for fleeing the scene without permission or even pausing to ascertain what was going on.  So he lies.  Let the police figure it out as he stated.  Oswald knew he wasn't getting away with this crime.  He was just making life difficult for the authorities as a lifelong malcontent.   Here's a better question.  Why do you think Oswald would lie about this if he was innocent since we know he didn't talk to Shelley?  If anything, this lie is further proof of guilt rather than innocence or whatever you are implying here.

This! (Bolded). Whichever way one turns, one ends up at Oswald being the sole guilty party (in the physical events that day).

I'm surprised someone hasn't turned up to 'LOL' each of those completely accurate Bugliosi points. Naming no names.

[Charles Collins]

This! (Bolded). Whichever way one turns, one ends up at Oswald being the sole guilty party (in the physical events that day).

I'm surprised someone hasn't turned up to 'LOL' each of those completely accurate Bugliosi points. Naming no names.

No one with a truly open mind could ever turn their nose up at all the evidence that points to LHO’s guilt and then turn around and conclude that Bill Shelly was involved simply because LHO mentioned Shelly’s name in one of his lies.

[Fergus O'Brien]

No one with a truly open mind could ever turn their nose up at all the evidence that points to LHO’s guilt and then turn around and conclude that Bill Shelly was involved simply because LHO mentioned Shelly’s name in one of his lies.

no one with a truly open mind would summarily dismiss a raft of first hand witnesses calling them liars , nuts , fame seekers or money grabbers , but as we have seen LN do so with alarming regularity .some times citing a witness one day because what the witness said suits their argument , while attacking that same witness another day because now what they say does not suit .

as an example Earlene roberts .this woman must be 100% relied upon when she says Oswald arrived home and spoke about him wearing a zipper jacket etc . but when she says she hears / sees a police car outside she becomes completely unreliable and in fact ive seen her called a liar (that she invented this ) , when she says Oswald stood at the bus stop that must be ignored . in fact i have seen very well known LN seriously question her eyesight in effect saying her eyesight was in a very bad way . i would say in my many years ive never known an LN that was truly open minded .so for LN to criticize others in regards open mindedness is well its laughable .

[Fergus O'Brien]

This all seems like an opportunity missed. The model of Dealey Plaza and the limo seem great but when it comes to the most important aspect of this model - the occupants of the limo - it's like they got a 5 year old to do that bit. Everything that can be wrong about them is wrong - wrong size, wrong position, wrong relative positions. In comparison to the rest of the model, the occupants seem really crudely done. I don't understand why this is.
I can't find a critique of the Knott reconstruction anywhere. I know nothing about computer graphics but I can plainly see there is so much wrong here.
As for Royell...who knows.
He cannot stop going on about the Knott Lab reconstruction but ask him a question about it and he disappears.

well LN often speak of Myers animation . offering it as the be all and end all as it were . but the problems with it are numerous and LN ignore them .myers moves both the jump seat and JBC in tandem 6 inches inboard . the jump seat did not move that way . and most certainly was not 6 inches inboard , schematics by the limo maker show the measurement to be just 2.5 inches . Myers moves JFK forwards and backwards when it suits him . on one angle jfk is moved closer to Connally , his knees right up against the back of JBC jump seat .we are talking about the presidential limo here . on the opposite angle JKF is placed back in his correct position . it is easier to get the trajectory to work if you pretend JFK was scrunched up behind JBC .the trajectory lines only going or stopping where it suits Myers . elongating JFKs neck , his jacket collar all but up to the level of JFKs ears to make it easier to locate the entry wound higher up as per the WC . and this is a man (Myers ) who has in the past said Oswald was innocent of both killings and that he could prove it . Myers once said the truth does not require anyones belief . i say the truth does not require deception , omission , distortion or lies , but we got all from the various so called investigations .

[Jack Nessan]

well LN often speak of Myers animation . offering it as the be all and end all as it were . but the problems with it are numerous and LN ignore them .myers moves both the jump seat and JBC in tandem 6 inches inboard . the jump seat did not move that way . and most certainly was not 6 inches inboard , schematics by the limo maker show the measurement to be just 2.5 inches . Myers moves JFK forwards and backwards when it suits him . on one angle jfk is moved closer to Connally , his knees right up against the back of JBC jump seat .we are talking about the presidential limo here . on the opposite angle JKF is placed back in his correct position . it is easier to get the trajectory to work if you pretend JFK was scrunched up behind JBC .the trajectory lines only going or stopping where it suits Myers . elongating JFKs neck , his jacket collar all but up to the level of JFKs ears to make it easier to locate the entry wound higher up as per the WC . and this is a man (Myers ) who has in the past said Oswald was innocent of both killings and that he could prove it . Myers once said the truth does not require anyones belief . i say the truth does not require deception , omission , distortion or lies , but we got all from the various so called investigations .

So, you have nothing to refute Dan’s claim but this nonsense about Myers?

The whole Knotts cartoon is a complete insult to reasoned intelligence. Dan’s assertion is that it still strikes JBC in the back no matter what they do. It even strikes JBC in the back at the exact same level as his wound from 11/22. Can you not understand this?

Knotts is not seasoned enough to understand the bullet can change trajectories when striking flesh. They have a separate bullet and a new trajectory represented because they do not understand this? They are supposedly testifying in criminal court cases? That must be comical to watch, except for whoever hired them.

The only person with this little of understanding of the assassination and would promote this tripe would be Royell Storing.