Why Didn't the Soviets and Cubans Expose the Alleged Fake Oswald Visits?

[Jon Banks]

The people who would have been powerful enough to assassinate JFK, frame Oswald, fake a Mexico City trip, cover up the identity of the real murderer, and kill Oswald in order to implicate Russia/Cuba would certainly have made a more concerted effort in the immediate aftermath of the assassination to promote a connection with Cuba/Russia.  They could pull all that off but make an anemic effort to link Cuba after the fact?  The entire purpose of all these high stakes undertakings.  Not compelling.

No one could've predicted LBJ's response to the evidence potentially connecting the Soviets and Cubans to Oswald. At the time, Johnson was perceived as more hawkish and anti-communist than JFK.

Rather than confront the Soviets, President Johnson chose to cover up potential foreign complicity in Kennedy's assassination, including shutting down investigations into what happened in Mexico City in the Fall of 63'.

Years after the Warren Report, LBJ continued to suggest Oswald didn't act alone. He wasn't satisfied with the lone assassin narrative but it served the purpose of avoiding retaliation against Cuba or the USSR...

Max Holland:

In July of 1973, six months after the death of Lyndon Baines Johnson, The Atlantic published an article by a journalist and former Johnson speechwriter named Leo Janos. "The Last Days of the President," about LBJ in retirement, was elegiac in tone and fact, save for one dissonant paragraph—in which Johnson volunteered his opinion that President John F. Kennedy's assassination had been the result of a conspiracy organized from Cuba. "I never believed that [Lee Harvey] Oswald acted alone, although I can accept that he pulled the trigger," he explained to Janos. Johnson thought such a conspiracy had formed in retaliation for U.S. plots to assassinate Fidel Castro; he had found after taking office that the government "had been operating a damned Murder Inc. in the Caribbean."

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/06/the-assassination-tapes/302964/

[Richard Smith]

No one could've predicted LBJ's response to the evidence potentially connecting the Soviets and Cubans to Oswald. At the time, Johnson was perceived as more hawkish and anti-communist than JFK.

Rather than confront the Soviets, President Johnson chose to cover up potential foreign complicity in Kennedy's assassination, including shutting down investigations into what happened in Mexico City in the Fall of 63'.

Years after the Warren Report, LBJ continued to suggest Oswald didn't act alone. He wasn't satisfied with the lone assassin narrative but it served the purpose of avoiding retaliation against Cuba or the USSR...

Max Holland:

All that lends itself to proving that: 1) LBJ was not involved in any conspiracy; and 2) Oswald's Mexico City trip was not faked as a pretext for war with Cuba or Russia.  The conspirators would not have gone to the enormous risk of assassinating the president without some assurance that the person who would replace him would be onboard with their objective. 

[Dan O'meara]

All that lends itself to proving that: 1) LBJ was not being involved in any conspiracy; and 2) Oswald's Mexico City trip was not faked as a pretext for war with Cuba or Russia.  The conspirators would not have gone to the enormous risk of assassinating the president without some assurance that the person who would replace him would be onboard with their objective.

Yet there is the truly perverse coincidence that the building JFK was assassinated from belonged to one of LBJ's close friends - David Harold Byrd.
Of the hundreds of tall buildings JFK passed during his many motorcades it was from one owned by a good friend of LBJ's that the assassin killed JFK.
It is also a perverse coincidence that Byrd was good friends with George De Morenschildt, the extravagant socialite who, for some utterly bewildering reason, chose to befriend broke bum/anti-social loner Oswald.

[Richard Smith]

Yet there is the truly perverse coincidence that the building JFK was assassinated from belonged to one of LBJ's close friends - David Harold Byrd.
Of the hundreds of tall buildings JFK passed during his many motorcades it was from one owned by a good friend of LBJ's that the assassin killed JFK.
It is also a perverse coincidence that Byrd was good friends with George De Morenschildt, the extravagant socialite who, for some utterly bewildering reason, chose to befriend broke bum/anti-social loner Oswald.

How do you know that the TSBD building was the "only" one that JFK passed in Dallas that belonged to such a friend? I imagine that LBJ had a lot of good friends in Texas.  LBJ was a lifelong politician in Texas.  He probably had a relationship with every wealthy person in the state.  But even if that dubious premise were true, it is meaningless.  If you examined every event in human history, you would find many apparent "coincidences."  Coincidences are often the norm but we are just unaware that they are occurring because there is no cause to research every human encounter.  The point here being, however, that no one would fake an Oswald visit to Mexico City for the purpose of creating a pretext for war with Cuba or Russia but then make no apparent effort after pulling off the assassination to put the blame on Cuba or Russia.  Instead we are told the plan comes to nothing just because LBJ would not go along. 

[Jon Banks]

All that lends itself to proving that: 1) LBJ was not involved in any conspiracy; and 2) Oswald's Mexico City trip was not faked as a pretext for war with Cuba or Russia.  The conspirators would not have gone to the enormous risk of assassinating the president without some assurance that the person who would replace him would be onboard with their objective.

1 - LBJ was deeply involved with the intelligence and political coverups after the Kennedy assassination. RFK Sr too. But it doesn't prove that he was involved in the conspiracy to kill JFK. And of course, I don't believe RFK was in on a conspiracy to kill his brother. The conspiracy and coverups that followed the assassination should be viewed as two distinct things. The motives for the coverups might've been related to avoiding a war or covering up illegal acts abroad (ie assassination attempts in Cuba) moreso than protecting potential conspirators.

2 - The Mexico City trip makes no sense outside of the context of it being some sort of intelligence operation. Oswald, having visited the USSR previously, knew of better ways to be able to travel to the Soviet Union or Cuba. Maybe the point was just to make a scene so it could be documented that he (or someone pretending to be him) visited those embassies weeks before the assassination? Or maybe it was as John Newman and others theorized, an attempt to create bad PR for the Fair Play for Cuba Committee?

We simply don't know enough to conclusively say what happened in Mexico City...

[Richard Smith]

1 - LBJ was deeply involved with the intelligence and political coverups after the Kennedy assassination. RFK Sr too. But it doesn't prove that he was involved in the conspiracy to kill JFK. And of course, I don't believe RFK was in on a conspiracy to kill his brother. The conspiracy and coverups that followed the assassination should be viewed as two distinct things. The motives for the coverups might've been related to avoiding a war or covering up illegal acts abroad (ie assassination attempts in Cuba) moreso than protecting potential conspirators.

2 - The Mexico City trip makes no sense outside of the context of it being some sort of intelligence operation. Oswald, having visited the USSR previously, knew of better ways to be able to travel to the Soviet Union or Cuba. Maybe the point was just to make a scene so it could be documented that he (or someone pretending to be him) visited those embassies weeks before the assassination? Or maybe it was as John Newman and others theorized, an attempt to create bad PR for the Fair Play for Cuba Committee?

We simply don't know enough to conclusively say what happened in Mexico City...

I'm not sure that I'm following.  If a pretext for a fake Oswald visit was to link him to Cuba or Russia as a basis for war, then the conspirators must have known that LBJ would the one to make that decision after the assassination.  LBJ would become president.  They would not have gone to the enormous risk of assassinating the president for that purpose without some control or assurance from LBJ that he would approve such an action.  Instead there is no apparent effort to promote war with Cuba or Russia.  To the contrary, most CTers complain that all the blame was immediately put on Oswald instead of investigating other possibilities. 

Bad PR for Fair Play for Cuba?  Who would care about that?  That's a laughable explanation for staging such a risky fake visit just shortly before intending to assassinate JFK.  And wasn't there enough "bad PR" from his act of assassinating JFK? 

[Dan O'meara]

How do you know that the TSBD building was the "only" one that JFK passed in Dallas that belonged to such a friend?

Where did I post that the TSBD building was the "only" building JFK passed that belonged to a friend of LBJ?
Why have you put the word "only" in quotation marks?
This is what I posted:

"Yet there is the truly perverse coincidence that the building JFK was assassinated from belonged to one of LBJ's close friends - David Harold Byrd. Of the hundreds of tall buildings JFK passed during his many motorcades it was from one owned by a good friend of LBJ's that the assassin killed JFK.
It is also a perverse coincidence that Byrd was good friends with George De Morenschildt, the extravagant socialite who, for some utterly bewildering reason, chose to befriend broke bum/anti-social loner Oswald."

Nowhere in this post have I used the word "only".
Nowhere have I even hinted that the TSBD building was the "only" building JFK passed that belonged to a friend of LBJ.
I won't say you're a liar, but I will say you need to sharpen up.

I imagine that LBJ had a lot of good friends in Texas.

What an amazing imagination you have.
(that is sarcasm by the way)

LBJ was a lifelong politician in Texas.

You're so full of amazing facts.
(that is sarcasm by the way)

He probably had a relationship with every wealthy person in the state.

Is this a guess?
Is this just something you're throwing out there?
Is this just a meaningless, made-up statement?
(the answer is 'yes' by the way)

But even if that dubious premise were true, it is meaningless.

Except it isn't a "dubious premise". (note - I've used quotation marks around the phrase "dubious premise" because it's something you actually posted, as opposed to your use of the word "only", which wasn't posted)
JFK was assassinated from a building owned by a friend of LBJ's - as far as you're concerned that's a fact, not a dubious premise.
Do you understand the difference?

If you examined every event in human history, you would find many apparent "coincidences."  Coincidences are often the norm but we are just unaware that they are occurring because there is no cause to research every human encounter.

I absolutely agree with this statement.
Josiah Thompson makes a similar observation regarding the JFK case,
It is a coincidence that JFK was assassinated from a building owned by LBJ's good friend Byrd. It also a coincidence that the very first defence contract LBJ awarded as President was to his good friend Byrd. Or is that a motive?
I notice you avoided the De Morenschildt coincidence and it is also a coincidence that Byrd is connected to Oswald via the Civil Air Patrol.
Loads of lovely, juicy coincidences.

The point here being, however, that no one would fake an Oswald visit to Mexico City for the purpose of creating a pretext for war with Cuba or Russia but then make no apparent effort after pulling off the assassination to put the blame on Cuba or Russia.  Instead we are told the plan comes to nothing just because LBJ would not go along.

It would make sense Oswald visited the embassy in Mexico City as this is probably where he was heading when he went on the run from the TSBD building. It has f^ck all to do with LBJ.

[Richard Smith]

Where did I post that the TSBD building was the "only" building JFK passed that belonged to a friend of LBJ?
Why have you put the word "only" in quotation marks?

So many excuses.  Here are your exact words:  "Of the hundreds of tall buildings JFK passed during his many motorcades it was from one owned by a good friend of LBJ's that the assassin killed JFK."  "It" [the TSBD] was the "one" owned by a friend of LBJ in your silly claim.  What exactly does this mean if you are not indicating there was something unique and singular about the TSBD? Again, "it" was the "one" building passed that was allegedly owned by a "friend" of LBJ.  You have clearly stated that the TSBD was the "one" or only building passed that was allegedly owned by a "friend."  That is what renders your baseless claim as having any relevance.  If you are now acknowledging that JFK passed many other such buildings owned by "friends" of LBJ, your point has even less relevance than before.  Which was none.