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Offline Joe Elliott

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Joe Biden's Legacy
« on: August 20, 2024, 04:53:11 PM »
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What a great first night of the Democratic National Convention. Who shall we compare Joseph Biden to? Has there ever been someone who went into retirement, saw the rising threat of fascism, came back when he was "too old" and became the leader of a country in peril, led brilliantly, all with a minor speech impediment, and was then pushed aside on the cusp of his greatest triumph? History doesn't repeat but sure as hell rhymes.

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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2024, 06:20:09 PM »
What a great first night of the Democratic National Convention. Who shall we compare Joseph Biden to? Has there ever been someone who went into retirement, saw the rising threat of fascism, came back when he was "too old" and became the leader of a country in peril, led brilliantly, all with a minor speech impediment, and was then pushed aside on the cusp of his greatest triumph? History doesn't repeat but sure as hell rhymes.

LOL.  You got one thing right.  There is no one that compares to Old Joe.  He is in a class by himself.  The worst modern president in history by a long shot.  He made Carter look like a genius.  Karma is a beetch as they say.  Old Joe's humiliation last night was just payback for all the lies he told to get elected and the cover provided by the biased media.  No other incumbent has been kicked out the door in a coup after winning the primaries.  That is how bad he is.  Fortunately, Trump exposed him at the debate before he could do even more harm.  Biden's legacy will be endless wars, crime, floods of illegal aliens, inflation, trillions wasted, incompetence, weakness, corruption, chaos, and record COVID deaths on his watch as he napped. 

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Re: Joe Biden's Legacy
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2024, 09:47:10 PM »
What a great first night of the Democratic National Convention. Who shall we compare Joseph Biden to? Has there ever been someone who went into retirement, saw the rising threat of fascism, came back when he was "too old" and became the leader of a country in peril, led brilliantly, all with a minor speech impediment, and was then pushed aside on the cusp of his greatest triumph? History doesn't repeat but sure as hell rhymes.

It's nice to see normal regular everyday people at an American convention again. Even the speakers are just like regular folk, not weird.

Instead of a gaudy Mar-a-Lago Club side-show, happy Democrats were seen being inspired to fight for fundamental freedoms and to stop once-and-for-all the cancer of Trumpism and Neo-Fascism. What kind of tribute will the RNC give Daffy Duck in 2028 after he's cost them elections in 2020, 2022 and 2024?

Wait a minute. Maybe the MAGA people are stupid entranced enough to give him another run in 2028. ::)

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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2024, 11:29:04 PM »
It's nice to see normal regular everyday people at an American convention again. Even the speakers are just like regular folk, not weird.

Instead of a gaudy Mar-a-Lago Club side-show, happy Democrats were seen being inspired to fight for fundamental freedoms and to stop once-and-for-all the cancer of Trumpism and Neo-Fascism. What kind of tribute will the RNC give Daffy Duck in 2028 after he's cost them elections in 2020, 2022 and 2024?

Wait a minute. Maybe the MAGA people are stupid entranced enough to give him another run in 2028. ::)

Normal?  Joe believes that Trump wasn't shot.

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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2024, 12:46:45 AM »
Normal?  Joe believes that Trump wasn't shot.

Never heard that one before. But Banana Republicans immediately claimed it was a "Biden hit". Turns out it was a gun-nut raised in a Republican household.

What kind of a person--slightly injured and knowing the shooter is down--asks about his shoes, rather than how the injured are? Donald Trump only cares about himself.

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2024, 02:39:05 PM »
Never heard that one before. But Banana Republicans immediately claimed it was a "Biden hit". Turns out it was a gun-nut raised in a Republican household.

What kind of a person--slightly injured and knowing the shooter is down--asks about his shoes, rather than how the injured are? Donald Trump only cares about himself.

Joe posted numerous threads claiming Trump wasn't shot.  You engaged with him on many of those but you "never heard that one before"? Talk about desperation.  Even disparaging Trump after he was shot.  What kind of person acts like Trump?  A hero.  Of course, just being shot he had no idea that anyone else had been injured.  You think he was supposed to go back to the podium and ask "how the injured are"?  Then what?  He was going to break away from the secret service to console them.  Good grief.  I know things are boring in Canada but that level of Trump Derangement Syndrome is embarrassing.  Maybe ask yourself these questions.  What kind of person acts like Trudeau?  Putting on black and brown face numerous times.  What kind of person acts like Old Joe and Dirty Hunter taking millions from foreign governments in influence peddling?  What kind of person acts like Walz deserting his comrades just before they were deployed to a combat zone?   What kind of person is Kamala's husband impregnating his kids' nanny?  The great dad the media was fawning over last night?  What kind of person is Epstein Island VIP Bill Clinton speaking tonight?   But Trump is shot and he is the bad guy. 

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Re: Joe Biden's Legacy
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2024, 03:53:55 PM »
It's nice to see normal regular everyday people at an American convention again. Even the speakers are just like regular folk, not weird.

Instead of a gaudy Mar-a-Lago Club side-show, happy Democrats were seen being inspired to fight for fundamental freedoms and to stop once-and-for-all the cancer of Trumpism and Neo-Fascism. What kind of tribute will the RNC give Daffy Duck in 2028 after he's cost them elections in 2020, 2022 and 2024?

Wait a minute. Maybe the MAGA people are stupid entranced enough to give him another run in 2028. ::)

Yes, I too am very happy with this convention. It is being run very well. I like Michele Obama's comment that next year, Trump will be starting on his black job. But many speakers last night were good. Senator Tammy Duckworth gave a very short speech that was absolute dynamite. If you missed it, look it up on Youtube.

if Trump loses in 2024, they will not run with him again, even if he avoids prison. They will drop him like a hot potatoe. Instead they will likely look for another dictator want-to-be. Someone younger without all the negative baggage that Trump has.

The only question is, if Trump loses a lot, and drags down a lot of other Republican candidates with him, will they try this again? Maybe not, to avoid another disaster. On the other hand, the demographics of America is continuing to change, people of just European descent will continue dropping. The allure of win once, win forever, is still very strong.

A difficulty is that there is not going to be just one dictator want-to-be.There will be many who want that job. They will have to signal to MAGA with coded talk (good people on both sides) that they are the guy. As one surges ahead, the others will become even more explicit, to try to get the MAGA crowd behind them They will not be able to catch us by surprise like they did in 2016 and (at least for me) in 2020.

They have found that for each day a door knocker works, visiting residences with a Democratic voter, they get an estimated extra 5 Democratic voters to vote who would not have voted otherwise. These estimates are based on statistics comparing voter turn out in neighborhoods that had door knockers compared to those that did not. I live in Washington state but I am staying in Pennsylvania for the last 4 weeks before November 5 to knock on doors all day, six days a week, to get fellow Democrats to vote. There are thousands of volunteers who will travel to swing states to go knock on doors. I have been in zoom meetings with 30 of them at a time. We are coming. Some have already started.

If MAGA tries again in 2028, thousands of us will come back again and knock on doors in swing states, setting them up for another massive failure. We will have many more volunteers in 2028 than even 2024, if they dare try again. I say to MAGA, "Bring it on."
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Re: Joe Biden's Legacy
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2024, 04:02:52 PM »
Joe posted numerous threads claiming Trump wasn't shot. . . .

I think Trump was hit by a bullet fragment, not a bullet. There were bullet fragments found on the stage near where Trump was standing. There were 4 policemen standing near Trump on the stage and like Trump, they had minor wounds.

Also, a supersonic bullet can cause serious ear damage if it passes within 1.2 meters or 120 cm of an ear. If it was a bullet the struck his ear, it passed within 5 cm of his eardrum, and yet Trump did not go deaf in that ear, as far as I can tell. I doubt Trump would have been immediately released from the hospital in Butler PA if a bullet passed within 5 cm of his eardrum.

In any case the FBI is studying his and they will come up with a report on this at some point in time, probably after November 5.
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