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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2025, 11:42:00 PM »
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29:15 the problem is that Whaley’s timesheet says that this passenger got in the cab at 12:30. The standard excuse is that he rounded his times to 15 minute intervals. However, one look at the timesheet shows several entries that are not on 15 minute boundaries, and the closest 15 minute boundary to 12:48 would be 12:45 anyway.

What's your point?  Oswald didn't take Whaley's cab to Oak Cliff?  Easy to criticize those putting it out there.  You've never put anything out there.


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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2025, 11:47:20 PM »
45:20 The flaw in Bill’s argument here is the assumption that the walk from the cab drop off to the rooming house would be at a consistent rate of speed as a walk from the rooming house to 10th and Patton. Different walks, different times, different motivations. Besides, I watched the video of Bill’s “walk”, and he was hauling ass, in my opinion. Let’s assume the LN story is actually true and Oswald deliberately had the can driver go past the rooming house so that he could check for cops. Once he verified there were no cops, why would he go an additional 4 blocks, and why would he then conspicuously power-walk/trot back up a major thoroughfare to get back and risk calling attention to himself? And then why would he be hauling ass like this in the direction of 10th and Patton? To get where?

Nonsense.  We were not "hauling ass".  We were walking with a purpose, as Oswald most certainly would have been doing.  We weren't walking any faster than the Oswald actor walked in the Gary Mack/Dave Perry time trials and I've seen you criticize that.

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2025, 11:49:26 PM »
1:00:11 Bill’s argument here is that ”it’s not absolutely impossible that Oswald arrived at the rooming house at 12:59, therefore he did.

You're getting desperate here to add to the list.

All I really have to do is show that it was possible, which has been explained.

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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2025, 07:07:42 PM »
Roberts stated that Oswald was back in his room just long enough to grab a jacket and put it on.  How long does it take you to grab your jacket and put it on?

It doesn't matter.  Roberts said it was about 3 or 4 minutes.

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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2025, 07:08:36 PM »
On film, for the Four Days In November documentary, Whaley drove the exact route he says he took that day.  In it, he stated that he dropped Oswald off at Beckley & Neely.

So how do you know which version is correct?

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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2025, 07:10:25 PM »
Nonsense.  The times either work or they don't.  In this case, they worked.
Oswald easily gets from the Depository at 12:33 to Tenth & Patton by 1:12.

Sure, if you make a whole bunch of unsubstantiated self-serving assumptions, including how long he was in the rooming house, what route was taken and what time the shooting occurred.

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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2025, 07:12:32 PM »
What's your point?  Oswald didn't take Whaley's cab to Oak Cliff?

Not if he picked his passenger up at 12:30 and the guy was wearing two jackets and a khaki blue uniform.

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Easy to criticize those putting it out there.  You've never put anything out there.

Like making up fantasy stories is a virtue...

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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2025, 07:14:52 PM »
Nonsense.  We were not "hauling ass".  We were walking with a purpose, as Oswald most certainly would have been doing.  We weren't walking any faster than the Oswald actor walked in the Gary Mack/Dave Perry time trials and I've seen you criticize that.

Nonsense.  You were "walking" way faster than Gary Mack's guy.  Yes, you were "walking with a purpose".  Your purpose was to make it to 10th and Patton in 12 minutes.  What was Oswald's purpose in hauling ass like that?  Was he afraid he would miss Tippit?

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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2025, 07:14:52 PM »