Tippit Debate

[Michael Capasse]

Bowley's call was at 1:17.

where do you get this garbage from? 

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There are three different and contradictory versions of DPD radio logs.
The WC accepted 2 obviously doctored versions before pretending to get a complete one.
And that did not happen until the investigation was just about over.

March 1964
The 1st version was given to the WC. It is Exhibit 705.
The DPD portion takes up 104 pages. It was made available by Inspector Sawyer.
There is a lack of name identification for many of the code numbers.

April 8, 1964
"Sawyer Exhibit A and B" is only 12 pages and accepted without question.
The version was also prepared with no names but at some point the names were added in longhand.
It also misidentified some and failed to identify others.

August 11, 1964
In response to a WC request the FBI supplied the final version. It is Exhibit 1974.
216 pages yet incomplete by the WCs design.
They limited the periods to be covered to only nine hours for the three-days.
The WC was almost finished with its work.
source: Harold Weisberg | Whitewash

[Mitch Todd]

where do you get this garbage from? 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
There are three different and contradictory versions of DPD radio logs.
The WC accepted 2 obviously doctored versions before pretending to get a complete one.
And that did not happen until the investigation was just about over.

March 1964
The 1st version was given to the WC. It is Exhibit 705.
The DPD portion takes up 104 pages. It was made available by Inspector Sawyer.
There is a lack of name identification for many of the code numbers.

April 8, 1964
"Sawyer Exhibit A and B" is only 12 pages and accepted without question.
The version was also prepared with no names but at some point the names were added in longhand.
It also misidentified some and failed to identify others.

August 11, 1964
In response to a WC request the FBI supplied the final version. It is Exhibit 1974.
216 pages yet incomplete by the WCs design.
They limited the periods to be covered to only nine hours for the three-days.
The WC was almost finished with its work.
source: Harold Weisberg | Whitewash

1:17 is taken from the recordings of the radio traffic on Channel 1. IIRC, Dale Meyers works up from the 1:16 transmissions and gets 1:17:41. If you search this website, there's a post (https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3459.msg129217.html#msg129217)  where I worked backwards from the 1:19 transmissions to put the start of the Bowley transmission at 1:17:54 +/- 10 seconds. 

[Michael Capasse]

1:17 is taken from the recordings of the radio traffic on Channel 1. IIRC, Dale Meyers works up from the 1:16 transmissions and gets 1:17:41. If you search this website, there's a post (https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3459.msg129217.html#msg129217)  where I worked backwards from the 1:19 transmissions to put the start of the Bowley transmission at 1:17:54 +/- 10 seconds.

Regurgitating someone else's garbage means even less.

[John Iacoletti]

That makes no difference.  Whether one goes down Crawford or over to Patton and then down Patton, it's the same distance.  Look at a map, John.

I've never seen you criticize Gary Mack's guy for "hauling ass" and he got there faster than we did.  Just stop it.

Gary Mack's video didn't show much of the actual walk.  Nor do we see the guy flailing his arm in an attempt to keep up, like your friend.

[John Iacoletti]

It's definitely possible.


Bowley's call was at 1:17.

That's not what Bowley said.

And there is no "1:17" dispatcher time announcement.  And the announcements were of unknown accuracy.

[John Iacoletti]

1:17 is taken from the recordings of the radio traffic on Channel 1. IIRC, Dale Meyers works up from the 1:16 transmissions and gets 1:17:41. If you search this website, there's a post (https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3459.msg129217.html#msg129217)  where I worked backwards from the 1:19 transmissions to put the start of the Bowley transmission at 1:17:54 +/- 10 seconds.

The machine didn't record continuously, and the extant recordings have been spliced and edited.

[Mitch Todd]

The machine didn't record continuously, and the extant recordings have been spliced and edited.

The Dictabelts were not guaranteed to record continuously over some period of time, but they would if there was enough traffic, as in the police response to the Tippit shooting. We've been here before.

The splice points have already been identified, and do not affect the 1:16 - 1:19 time period. 

As for your continuing assertions that there are edits beyond the splicing, those are simply your own unsupported nebulosities.

[Michael Capasse]

The Dictabelts were not guaranteed to record continuously over some period of time, but they would if there was enough traffic, as in the police response to the Tippit shooting. We've been here before.

The splice points have already been identified, and do not affect the 1:16 - 1:19 time period. 

As for your continuing assertions that there are edits beyond the splicing, those are simply your own unsupported nebulosities.

Bullsh!t
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